Talk:Avrohom Yeshaya Karelitz

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Contents 1 Name change 2 Use of italics for the Nome de Plume 3 Unencyclopedic tone 4 Leader? 5 Camels and Waggons

[edit] Name change

Since the premature death of the prophet Isiaiah (Yeshayahu), no one gives the full name to their children, but abbreviates it as "Yeshayah." I made all the changes in the document, and would like to know how to change the title of the article. Yoninah 09:18, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

Use "move page", or if you don't manage ask me again here to do it. Do you have any source that the Chazon Ish was called Yeshaya or Yeshayahu. It is not enough to say the he should be called Yeshaya. All people I know that are named after him are called Yeshaya, so you're probably right. JFW | T@lk 13:43, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

The most common name used on Google is "Avraham Yeshayahu Karelitz". Common English usage is the Wikipedia standard, regardless of what he should have been called. Jayjg ^(talk) 14:08, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

SHouldn't it be Avrohom Yeshyah Karelitz? --Shaul avrom 02:10, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Use of italics for the Nome de Plume

Chazon Ish is a pseudonym. Chazon Ish is a book. In the wikipedia, (and most everywhere else) book names are italicized, and names are not. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Vonfraginoff (talk • contribs) 11:03, 7 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Unencyclopedic tone

Though I too revere the Chazon Ish, I am not sure the overly enthusiastic tone of this article befits a neutral encyclopedia. I suggest revision for tone/style. 79.183.236.154 (talk) 08:54, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Leader?

Considering that he did not hold an official position (refusing to be involved in politics, therefore declining to participate in the Agudah), I'm not sure it is accurate to say that he was a Haredi "leader". He did inspire Haredim, who were devoted to him and his teachings. But I suggest we reword the term "leader" which connotes some agreed relationship. The article as worded is inconsistent. --Gil (talk) 18:40, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

100% agree. This page does not mention anything about the legacy of almost unceasing, often bitter, controversy which characterised his life in Israel. Even Charedi biographies^[1] celebrate his tendency to confrontation with the Zionists.

How can a serious biography ignore the cpntroversy over the issue of enlisting females in the IDF? What about the various shabbos wars? The educational institutions he set up (Kollel Chazzon Ish)?

20:38, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Camels and Waggons

Who cares? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.76.9.6 (talk) 20:40, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

In Israel, this story is considered symbolic to the relations between Haredi and Secular Judaism. Up to this day one can find secular jews explaining why "their wagon" is not empty. DGtal (talk) 08:40, 25 April 2008 (UTC)