Talk:Avira

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Articles for deletion This article was nominated for deletion on 27 July 2007. The result of the discussion was Keep per consensus and withdrawal of nomination.

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[edit] How it stacks up

I think this article deserves a section on how Avira products stack up against other popular Antivirus products (Ex. Norton & McAfee)... Or is there a seperate article for this? I havn't found it yet, but I think this is key information that should be present, if people are looking up antivirus products in an encyclopedia, they are most likely wondering which one they should dowload or purchase. Personally, I prefer AntiVir personal edition over Norton Internet Security Suite, but I have my own biases against norton, so I can't really talk. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.28.14.129 (talk) 14:03, 27 November 2006 (GMT)

Well, for Norton's stuff, you'd have to pay for it. For one of Avira's stuff -doing the same thing as Nortan's AV does-, it's free of charge. That's my "personal bias". 88.105.85.109 (talk) 17:02, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removal of prod

I removed the prod because I disagree with the deletion of this article.

The user that added the prod stated that the article "gives no indication of satisfying, WP:V, WP:RS or WP:SOFTWARE".

While the article does not give any sources I think they shouldn't be that hard to add since most (if not all) that is in the article should be available at Aviras own site (www.avira.com), perhaps not the most unbiased of sources but good enough imo. And as for notability, fgi, "Results 1 - 10 of about 1,760,000 for avira".

Sure it is far from perfect but it does not deserve deletion.

I'll see if I'll have the time to add some sources and perhaps improve the article a bit. Kattfisk 19:50, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A good external source that may help this article satisfy some of the mentioned standards

http://www.av-comparatives.org/seiten/comparatives.html

I've seen this page referenced on several occasions. It's the most respected one I know of on the topic (though there may be others, as well). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.110.227.60 (talk • contribs) 19:27, 19 April 2007 (GMT).

[edit] Article expansion

This article sucks compared to the articles on avast! and AVG Free. They're all free, why does this one suck so much?

For the same reason that you did nothing to improve it. Ham Pastrami 14:54, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image Nomination

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:AVIRA_AV_window.png

Is this okay?

Shin-chan01 (talk) 17:27, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Get a more recent update and we can make that work ;) Actually, in all seriousness, it's fine but a bit large, I can fix that tho :) ♥ Fredil 20:10, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] How to read AV-comparatives

Note to editors: the "comparative" test that they perform includes only actual virus samples. The "Retrospective" test includes testing for false positives. Keep this in mind when updating the "Detection ability" section. The software will ordinarily score higher on the comparative tests because its problem with false positives isn't measured in that test. I am editing the current wording to reflect this. Ham Pastrami 02:27, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Very Short article

Avira is a major antivirus company. And it is not free in all cases. I have subscribed to it and i find it better than Mcafee. However, wikipedia's article about Mcafee seems way more detailed and attention oriented, whereas this article is too short. This gives an impression that the authors want to send the message that Mcafee is superior and Avira is inferior. This points to bias. All antivirus software articles should be of equal length and content. In most tests done, Avira outscored Mcafee or performed very good. Any antivirus expert would say that it is competitive to other programs. For example, the mcafee article not only even tells how much revenue mcafee makes but the picture of its corporate headquarters is also shown. When comparing the 2 articles, there seems to be way too much bias for Avira. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xyz9902003 (talk • contribs) 09:56, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Since McAfee is a larger corporation and its products are more widely used, it is only natural that Wikipedia's article on McAfee would be more detailed than the article on Avira. If you feel there are details that are left out of this article, consider helping expand it. Stephenchou0722 (talk) 22:16, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Avira is editing this page

This needs to be called out, though it's pretty clear that someone from Avira has been watching this page and has been inserting POV at every opportunity, against WP:COI. Please be on the lookout for bias in the article. Ham Pastrami (talk) 11:29, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Just removed some bias. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.164.92.140 (talk) 20:29, 10 June 2008 (UTC)