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Go back and look at the KINSELLA page. Kinsella's sock has reverted your edits to get rid of all the lawsuit stuff. 142.78.190.137 16:54, 10 January 2007 (UTC)


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[edit] Link to Top Ten Jerks Page

Do not link to that page. It smears Bourrie, lumping him in with David Irving and claiming he was investigated by the Press Gallery. Wikipedia does not need this type of trash. The Bourrie blog link with the apology is enough. Retilian Kitten Eater 00:47, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

I think it is enough, you think it is enough, but given the page's history, I can virtually guarantee that someone (or someone's sock) will argue that it is not enough. In any case, I think I have found a way around this problem. Please let me know what you think. AverageGuy 01:40, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Seems OK with me. Hopefully we can all just ignore the page, and them, forever. Retilian Kitten Eater 12:39, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

The whole Kinsella "enemies list" thing is too shabby for Wikipedia. Sorry about the sock allegation. Obviously, it doesn't fit, and I must acquitRetilian Kitten Eater 22:06, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

No worries about the talk page thing at least from my perspective. I'm glad to see that you two worked out the issue without me. --JGGardiner 05:28, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

FYI, Retillian Kitten Eater is a sock of a banned user: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/Arthur_Ellis Kla'quot 04:29, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. No surprise there, I guess. They both have the same approach: shoot first, ask questions later -- and always assume bad faith. He apologized on this page (see above), but continued to trash me on JGGardiner's talk page. AverageGuy 13:40, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

If it is okay with you, can I remove my Anb*r comments? He's requested it and I'd just like to get the whole thing over with. I don't want to remove comments from your talk page without asking you first. Thanks. And thanks for your work on that file. I'm glad to see that this thing is finally resolved and I think your agreement with him is the reason.
This all reminds me a little of the bzzr gardens (sometimes BEvERage gardens) at one of my universities. --JGGardiner 00:59, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
It's not a problem with me. I suspect the whole thing will be finished now that he has what he wanted. I only wish he had approached this in a more up-front way. I guess they don't teach that in law school. AverageGuy 12:41, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
Well I think Ottawa U has a mandatory [[alternative dispute resolution] course.
Like I said, if it weren't for the search engines, I don't think there would have been a removal effort. And I would have like to have seen some contrition or apology. I'm not at alll happy with the way he behaved. But I don't think he should have serious real-life consequences that he feared just for behaving badly on a wiki. I'm sure that many others have acted just as badly or worse but were smart enough to use an anonymous identity from the start. It's the same with the Bourrie thing. The ones who slink around anonymously don't have to worry about real consequences. But those two started out openly and honestly.

I think that there should be some sort of warning about using real names and identities. I'm not really a Gardiner of course. =) There was actually a bit on Jimmy Gardiner in one of Kinsella's books you know.

I agree on all points. By the way, given your editing interests and mine (and the fact that we both know who Jimmy Gardiner was!) there's a good chance we know each other, but I'm not about to reveal my identity and I gather neither are you. AverageGuy 03:20, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
I suppose it is possible that we know each other. I'm sure that people who do come into contact here. Maybe that should make users more conscious of their civlity. I wouldn't want to be rude to an anonymous editor that was actually my Mom.
My interests here have been mostly Canadian political and historical and fairly general. Both of those would cover Gardiner of course. Although I actually only edited the Gardiner article once, to remove his listing in the Canadian farmers category. He was a teacher by profession. I actually know about him more from his time in Ottawa than Saskatchewan, which is the period that Kinsella wrote about (the '29 Sask. election if I recall). I was given Kinsella's Web of Hate as a gift back when it was new, from a relative who was interested in hate groups and such. I did read it but that was quite a while ago now. I'm not enamoured with Gardiner. I just happened to be writing something about him around the time that I chose my user name. But Gardiner did show quite a bit of moral courage. In 29, in the Regina Riot, when he resigned as War Services minister over the "zombie" issue. His son was killed at Dieppe when his spitfire collided with another Allied plane and his wife drowned herself in the Rideau canal. He's really sort of a tragic figure. --JGGardiner 00:06, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
Yes, I too am interested in Canadian politics and history. I have read Kinsella's Web of Hate, but don't recall the information about Gardiner. There is also some good material on Gardiner in Robert Wardhaugh's Mackenzie King and the Prairie West. AverageGuy 12:53, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Marion van de Wetering

A {{prod}} template has been added to the article Marion van de Wetering, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice explains why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may contest the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. If you endorse deletion of the article, and you are the only person who has made substantial edits to the page, please tag it with {{db-author}}. Atlan (talk) 14:29, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Mark Bourrie

Hi, The Mark Bourrie article was deleted because a PROD tag was placed on it and remained there for 5 days or longer. That means that nobody had contested to the deletion and it could therefore be deleted by an administrator at any time. So basically it was deleted on the basis that nobody contested the deletion rather than because the content was wrong or not acceptable. Although the concern was that it was about a "not notable" subject. Hope this helps. Thanks --¤ The-G-Unit-฿oss ¤ 17:40, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

When a PROD template is added it can be removed at any time which makes that deletion proposal void. This one was left for days without any contest. Thanks --¤ The-G-Unit-฿oss ¤ 14:31, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rachel Marsden

In the interests of moving forward, I have made a rather long post on the Talk:Rachel Marsden page. It is my hope that you (and others) will participate in the discussion. Thanks. Victoriagirl (talk) 01:42, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tim Hortons invented the Double Double

This claim sneaks its way into the article time and time again. It is constantly being removed or revised, but sometimes it gets stuck back in there without anyone noticing. There must be a segment of the population that believes that double doubles originated at Tims -- who knows. No one has ever produced a source in support of it. Thank you for revising it (again).Skeezix1000 (talk) 00:22, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome. I'm glad I'm not the only one who has doubts about this "fact." AverageGuy (talk) 13:41, 25 January 2008 (UTC)