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Adding Project tags

Well, I'm back again. I have a list of roughly 1300 U.S. airports that have articles. What I'm looking to do is place the tag for the WikiProject on the talk page of each, if it doesn't already exist. Is there functionality to do this without manual list modification? I can't seem to figure out a way to. It seems that "Append Message" would add it even if it already existed.

The best thing I've figured out would be to use Notepad's functionality (Find/Replace) to put Talk: into every link and then skip if contains the tag. thadius856talk 20:17, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Set "Skip if contains" to a suitable value. Or was that what you meant?Rich Farmbrough, 21:08 15 October 2006 (GMT).
Yes, that's what I am doing. I was just wondering if there was an automated method to put them on talk pages that don't have them, without having to manually place Talk: in front of each in Notepad to modify the list. thadius856talk 00:03, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
You mean convert the AWB list to Talk:? Just right click inside the file list and select convert to talk pages. --kingboyk 09:24, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Basic Qs: Find/Replace

Hi all. I've just started using AWB, and I have some very basic questions...

(1) I'd like to have the Find/Replace function ignore any "X" that's found within a [[Category:X|X]] or [[Image:X|Y]] tag, while still seeking and replacing for "Y". (And still seeking and replacing in the rest of the article.) How is this done? (2) Can we use this to Find/Replace article titles? That is, can I use AWB to move pages?

Thanks. LordAmeth 11:37, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

end of a line

  • \r\n is for start of the line, and what is for end of the line?
  • by the way, to match all polish alphabet I use [a-ząćęńóżź], can I do this simplier? \d is for "digit", is there sth for "letter"? --gregul
\r\n represents a newline, using regexes with multiline enabled, ^ represents the start of a line and $ the end. \D matches non digits, but this will match syntax and punctuation as well, so I don't know if it helps. Martin 13:18, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Requests

Is there any place for people to request relatively minor AWB work, such as changing or adding templates to all the articles in a category? Laïka 17:07, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Request it here, and someone will usually take up the task. What are you looking at wanting doing? As i may be able to help Reedy Boy 17:16, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
Everything in Category:Relevance fallacies (and subcategories) needs Template:Relevance fallacies adding to the end. Thanks! Laïka 17:19, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
No Problem, i'll get onto this after my Tea =D. Will also do the normal general fixes and the Typo fixing on it for you Reedy Boy 17:25, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
40 Pages have had the template added. That should be them all done though. Hope that helps Reedy Boy 19:34, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

words in a stub?

What's the wordcount threshold for being considered a "stub"? Thanks--Ling.Nut 00:14, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Please see WP:STUB. Excerpt: "A stub is an article that is too short to provide encyclopedic coverage of the subject, but not so short as to provide no useful information. To qualify as a stub it must at least define the meaning of the article's title. Often that means three to ten short sentences, but less text may be sufficient to qualify as a stub for articles on narrow topics, and complicated topics with more than ten sentences may still be stubs. However, in reality, many articles which are labeled as stubs are much longer than that. You can help Wikipedia by removing inappropriate stub notices.
Another way to define a stub is an article so incomplete that an editor who knows little or nothing about the topic could improve its content after a superficial Web search or a few minutes in a reference library. An article that can be improved by only a rather knowledgeable editor, or after significant research, may not be a stub."
–Outriggr § 01:04, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply.. but AWB can add stub tags automagically, right? So how does it determine what is or is not a stub?--Ling.Nut 01:12, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
D'oh! In that case, please see WP:How AWB determines stubbiness. –Outriggr § 01:19, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
Redlink-- no such article.--Ling.Nut 02:04, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
That one was a joke. I'll go away now... –Outriggr § 02:11, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
I'm afraid I have no sense of humor that I'm aware of. I've been looking into having one surgically implanted. There are some relatively reputable surgeons in [insert name of country other than the U.S.]...--Ling.Nut 02:49, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
I should have put a smiley after it. Dr. Nick could point you to some good surgeons. (Just so I can make two Simpsons references in one section.) –Outriggr § 03:28, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
As exact as 'what i remember off the top of my head' is, i believe it is an article that has reached a certain number of characters. i used to think it was 250, but that can't be it because thats about how many characters it is from the start of this to now. i leave it on for my edits, and i've seen it remove many a stub tag and all are ones that i would have removed myself. JoeSmack Talk(p-review!) 05:36, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

windows

This should be reprogrammed with Java for cross platform compatibility. A windows-only product isn't in the style of Wikipedia. It's released GPL, true, but relying on a proprietary operating system doesn't help. Has anyone tried compiling it with Mono? --gatoatigrado 15:25, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

I really don't care for discussions about operating systems and such. I'm a windows .NET programmer and that's final, I have been generous enough to release the code freely so anyone can do what they like with it, you can re-program it in java or with mono if you like. Martin 15:43, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
I dont see how its not in the wikipedia style.... Anyway, more people use windows than linux (im not saying it is better), but as martin said, he's a windows .NET programmer. It will use many of the .NET functions, so it could be changed over to another language, but would need some fiddling. If you would like, as i get the SVN sources, i could try in Mono... Reedy Boy 20:43, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
I don't think that should even be dignified with an answer. If you don't like it, build your own product. --kingboyk 11:51, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Non-Wikimedia support

Just commited some changes that allow to connect to an arbtrary wiki (you just need to supply the path to scripts directory). Need a review. MaxSem 15:46, 17 October 2006 (UTC)


Plugin/Library

Hi Martin.

  • Any progress on plugins getting access to methods to have AWB load XML settings files/load XML streams with settings? No real rush on this just so long as you've haven't forgotten :)
  • Looks like in SkipOptions in AWB.exe you've started to make a few settings public. If we could get access to all of the main form controls this way, in an API encapsulated fashion, it would help with robustnesss. As you can see from the code I sent you, I currently do all sorts of hacks like accessing your controls by name and registering handlers for them, changing the colour of a button, etc :) It works a treat of course but will break the moment you decide to rename something.
  • Logging. My plugin writes out logs (in XHTML and wiki format). I want to add support for uploading these logs to Wikipedia. Are there any functions anywhere in AWB/WikiFunctions which would help me achieve this?
    Also, I was thinking that this feature might be useful to other folks. Would you be interested in me writing the logging/uploading support into the WikiFunctions namespace and compiling into a seperate DLL for distribution with AWB? (WikiFunctions2.dll). I could supply the source for SVN too of course but it would be VB (boo hiss). That's if there's not already code to do this (uploading a page in the background) in the library which I've missed. Whatever, I'll still presumably need to write code to add the links for the new log pages to a central log page, and some code for configuration. --kingboyk 13:34, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
  1. I haven't forgotten, but I still can't decide how to do it either, plus I haven't been doing a whole lot to AWB recently.
  2. I need to work out how plugins are normally implemented, I doubt passing loads of object references is the way, I'll get around to improving it eventually.
  3. WikiFunctions.Editor contains code for editing articles, I haven't used it recently, but I imagine it covers your needs, if not then we can see if it could be improved. thanks Martin 13:59, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

OK mate. I haven't been doing much plugin work either so no rush :)

I'll take a look at WikiFunctions.Editor and also of course the extended WebControl. If I end up writing a lot of portable code I'll come back and suggest sharing it again. Thanks for the reply. --kingboyk 14:04, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

I've started working on this Martin, and I think the Editor class is likely to be exactly what I needed. A few queries I couldn't answer myself from the source (yet) and a feature request:

  • Doesn't seem to have an argument for "add to watchlist". Could an overloaded function perhaps be added for this?
  • What happens if the page can't be loaded? Is an error thrown? How can I distinguish between failed loads and empty pages?
  • Do I have to check user is logged in?

--kingboyk 20:11, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

To be honest I'm not sure, I haven't used it much yet (User:Werdna made it). I should point out there is http://sourceforge.net/projects/dotnetwikibot which could be compiled as a dll and bundled with your package, it is significantly more advanced/complicated than WikiFunctions.Editor, might be worth looking at. Martin 18:09, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
Thanks mate, I'll ask Werdna. --kingboyk 19:48, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi kingboyk. My functions are pretty basic, and at just the level needed for what I needed to do. There's very little error handing. To answer your queries, in order..
  • It doesn't have that functionality. It would be pretty trivial to implement this, but I don't have the time. You're welcome to advice on IRC re: how to do so.
  • I honestly can't remember. I believe a 404 will be thrown.
  • I believe so.

Sorry, it's not a particularly good framework. — Werdna talk criticism 03:54, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Made a patch that adds this functionality. MaxSem 05:44, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
Thanks Werdna, and special thanks MaxSem. Could you test the patch and add it to the dll if good please Martin? I may or may not use this but we ought not turn our nose up at improving the class :) --kingboyk 08:28, 13 October 2006 (UTC) PS: How exactly does one apply a patch to a dotnet source file? --kingboyk 09:29, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
Save the text into a file, (preferably renamed to use extension .patch), in tortoise SVN there is an option called "Apply patch", select the file containing the patch, and then "Patch all", save and you're done, it's pretty simple really. I've applied MaxSem's patch already (thanks MaxSem). Martin 09:38, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

protected bool LoggedIn; doesn't seem to be plugged in anywhere. If that's so perhaps it could be removed so as to avoid other folks doing what I did (calling it and finding it to always be false). --kingboyk 16:22, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

I think there's a slight bug in your patch MaxSem. The non-watchlist versions seem to call the watchlist version with an argument value of False; that means that pages which are already on the watchlist get removed. --kingboyk 12:05, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, fixed. MaxSem 15:16, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Simple routine needed

Is there anything in Wikifunctions which can take a string and remove any categories which aren't legal in article names? (square brackets and so on). If not, could somebody knock one up please? Should be a 5 minute job for anyone who knows exactly which chars aren't allowed. --kingboyk 20:19, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Another request, sorry. I see that the webcontrol has LoggedIn and UserName properties, but presumably they'll only work when the web control has a page loaded. I need to find out the username of the logged in user, and I think by far the best way to do this would be for AWB to let plugins know when it's got the user name and performed it's checkuser. Again, only a couple of lines of code. C'est possible? --kingboyk 21:12, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

I've hacked round this for now by attaching a temporary event handler to webcontrol_Loaded, and then removing the handler once I know the username. Smart but not elegant, so if you could add this some time Martin it would be appreciated.
My logging classes are in a wikifunctions2.dll and I'm testing them now. I'll also see if I have any other code which is worth throwing into the library. --kingboyk 21:21, 16 October 2006 (UTC) PS VB programmers are people too :)

New DLL

Developers of wiki apps: I've just finished an alpha version of WikiFunctions2.dll, which can add wiki/XHTML logging to your wiki application, and also upload logs to Wikipedia. Please check it out. --kingboyk 18:33, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Ok, great, probably best not to call it WikiFunctions2, as it will be confused for a newer version of WikiFunctions. Also, I am making big changes to the saving/loading mechanism, ultimately it will be much better, especially for plugins, but it will require some changes in the plugin interface, probably nothing too major though. Martin 09:06, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
Any idea what I should call it then?
I'll reserve comment on the second issue until I see what it involves :) --kingboyk 10:54, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
It will mean plugins can manipulate AWB settings easily, and save its own settings more easily etc., so it should keep keep you happy ;-) Martin 11:53, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
Gulp! Happy, possibly. Might just have me tearing my hair out though ;) Better access to AWB settings and events will be cool (although I've hacked around pretty much everything now), but I like the XML scheme so if you replace that please leave the old scheme in place too if possible. Looking forward to seeing this! Cheers. --kingboyk 12:22, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Freezing on "You Have New Messages"

So, when you get a new message on your User talk page, AWB stops and gives you a pop-up to let you know you should read this before continuing. The message might be relevant. Okay. But how do you get the pop-up to go away? It doesn't seem to sense when you check your talk page in either IE or Firefox, and there's no buttons to click within the AWB pop-up window... I've had to use Task Manager to hard-quit out of AWB because there doesn't appear to be any other buttons or options to make that popup go away. Help? LordAmeth 08:22, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

There should be buttons on that popup. If not, it may be drawn too small; try hitting tab and enter. --NE2 08:35, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Tamil and Telugu

Martin, Could you please add Tamil (ta.wikipedia.org) and Telugu (te.wikipedia.org) to the AWB language list? They use unicode (UTF-8). Would it work? Please advise. Thanks, Ganeshk (talk) 04:10, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Ok, will be in next release. Martin 10:29, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Adding to general fixes

I've noticed that AWB does not automatically change an 'External link' section heading into 'External links', as per WP:EL. Would this be a possibility for a future release? thadius856talk 05:27, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Im pretty sure that it does...? Or is it only some of the other versions ie External Links ? Reedy Boy 09:30, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
It doesn't, the reason being that it was only recently that the guideline was changed. Martin 09:33, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

again about category sorting

I want to remind the fact that AWB modifies [[Kategoria:Argentyna| ]] (forces the article to be "on top") to [[Kategoria:Argentyna|Argentyna]] etc. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:AutoWikiBrowser/Archive_11#Problem_with_category_sorting --gregul

I think this is fixed in the next release. Martin 19:29, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

  • still doesn't work

redundant spaces

  • sorry I'm bothering you all the time, but I discovered that there are lot of double(tripple?) spaces into the articles, like those between words, sometimes causing regexes won't match, it's real small, but if there is a safe way to implement, it will maybe be useful
  • sometimes slight changes are done, like for example removing "." or "," – they are hard to see into preview (when validating changes), the background turns yellow but for whole paragraph, not only for replaced text, maybe something could be done to be able to see the exact diff? --gregul
Double- and triple-spaces are nothing uncommon. They occur across all of Wikipedia, not just this project. If you want to have them still match regex, use a + after the space (meaning 1 or more). For example, "foo +bar" would find "foo bar", "foo  bar", "foo   bar", etc. However, many browsers (IE and FF at least) don't typically render double-spaces. As for the slight changes in the diff - there's nothing we can really do about that - it's entirely out of our hands. thadius856talk 16:22, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
thanks, I'll rather use " *" than " +" --gregul

Namespace checkboxes

Martin, Is there any way you can save the name space checkbox values (in the filter) as part of the "User Preferences" or "Settings file". I am currently applying project banners to talk pages. I load a category in, use convert to talk pages feature, and then go into filter and remove all other namespaces except talk. I am having to do this each and every time. Please advise. Thanks, Ganeshk (talk) 19:42, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

If that is too complicated, just provide a way to clear all check boxes in one click. It would really help. Thanks, Ganeshk (talk) 19:44, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
The context menu for the filter window has some options to select/de-select all the boxes. Martin 09:09, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
Got it. Thanks! That's a second time I got a context menu answer. I have to right-click more frequently. -- Ganeshk (talk) 02:35, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

View article while editing talk page?

I'm currently using kingboyk's plugin to tag talk pages of articles as falling under WikiProject Physics. I've got a series of mixed physics and non-physics categories to go through, and it would be very useful if I could view the article pages within AWB while editing the talk pages using the plugin. That way, I can point AWB at a mixed category and just click "ignore" when I see a page that's not about physics. Is this possible? Thanks. Mike Peel 21:08, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

"Replace text with last edit" not working

I have been getting more than my fair share of restarted edits over the last few days, and for some reason the "Replace text with last edit" option is simply not working. At what point does the "last edit" get overwritten? Is it possible for AWB to check more thoroughly as to whether this is a new article or the same one being reloaded? It might even be helpful for AWB to ask every time an article is reloaded whether the user wants to reload the previous text. HTH HAND —Phil | Talk 10:33, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Sort key feature request

When using AWB to add articles to a category, it would be nice if it would parse existing category sort keys for the article and automatically use the most popular sort key for that article on the new category. --Pascal666 19:34, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Turning off sound

Is there any way to disable the sound effects that AWB makes when ready to save and minimized? It's the most obnoxious sound I've ever heard (echoes in my ears due to some permanent hearing loss) and I'd really enjoy being able to listen to music while I use it.

Don't get me wrong here - I'm sure it's great for most everybody else. But is there any I can just delete a file or comment out a line in the source and compile it myself? I'm not all that great at programming, so any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. thadius856talk 09:57, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Look in the "User and project preferences" menu, you can turn off the flash and beep. Martin 10:29, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
That's the problem... I like the flash. Oh wells, it's off. :\ thadius856talk 05:24, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
Gotta agree with you on this one. The flash is nice, but would love to see the clicking and beep go. --Pascal666 20:03, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
Don't mind the beep, but the constant clicking... /Lokal_Profil 14:18, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
I might be mistaken, but I think that sound is a windows preference. Alphachimp 14:24, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
You smart!!! I knew AWB used IE to pull the pages, but I never use IE myself so it didn't dawn on me where the sound came from. Start > Settings > Control Panel > Sounds and Multimedia, "Sounds" tab, "Start Navigation" under "Windows Explorer", change "Name" from "start.wav" to "(None)". No more clicking!!! Thank you!!! --Pascal666 03:15, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Making a list based on article content

Is there any function/plugin which allows pages to be filtered by content and then saved to a list?
Whilst going throgh a large list of articles where only a few needs updating (but the updating needs to be manual rather than automatic) it becomes tedious to sit and wait whilst AWB scrolls through the pages. If I on the other hand go away then AWB stops when it finds an article to update and then does noting else until I come back and tell it to continue. What would be really usefull is a function where instead of opening the article for editing it would add it to a list and then go through the rest. That way when one comes back there is a list of only articles needing updating. /Lokal_Profil 19:13, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

This has been asked before, it would be too big a drain on resources to rapidly filter through many articles. Martin 19:29, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
Ok, thanks anyway. =) /Lokal_Profil 21:35, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
This can be done from database dumps, just not from the live database. --Pascal666 03:18, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Find and Replace

The AWB could has options for import/export lists of "Find and Replace". The same about the articles: we can save a list of articles using the AWB but we can't upload the same list. --Giro720 16:35, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

two requests..

HI, two requests, both of which may have been made before:

  1. Is there an option to locate all the links to disambiguation pages within a single page that is being edited? That is, can I check a page for dab page links?
  2. Umm, I think AWB can find all members of two categories or whatever by skipping things that do not include both.. but what if one category is on the Talk page and one is on the article? Here I'm thinking of stub template(s) on the article, and wikiproject(s) on the Talk page. Is there no way to merge the two lists to find their intersection?

Thanks --Ling.Nut 02:57, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

IRCMonitor

Great program, but I keep getting an "object reference not set to an object" exception. Perhaps some exception handling code needs to be thrown in?

Here's the error text:

System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.

at WikiFunctions.Browser.WebControl.set_Status(String value)
at WikiFunctions.Browser.WebControl.IncrememntTime(Object sender, EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Timer.OnTick(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Timer.TimerNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)

—Disavian (talk/contribs) 03:53, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Try 3.0.5.0 which I just released. thanks. Martin 09:31, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Populate from sub categories automatically

Hi, I am loading articles from a category to create a list in AWB. My question is how do I automatically select all articles in the sub categories of the parent category that I select. Having to d them individually is quite frustrating. Thanks! -- Lost(talk) 02:54, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Just click "sort alphabetically" and select all the categories, then right click and select "make list" then "from category". —Mets501 (talk) 03:23, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
Oh thank you so much!!! This makes life so easy! -- Lost(talk) 03:33, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
I tried this, and unfortunately the list thus generated contained several redirects. Since I had converted the list to the relevant "Talk pages," I was adding wikiproject banners to the talk pages of redirects.... Did I do something wrong? (Plus also please see my two questions below). Thanks!--Ling.Nut 23:21, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Support for Simple English Wikipedia

Can you add it? Thanks, Caknuck 05:17, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Added, will be available with next release. MaxSem 09:56, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
Thank you! Caknuck 06:39, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Custom Project

Trying to use wiki.procooling.com with the custom setting, but it reports:

"An error occurred while loading project information from the server. Please make sure that your internet connection works and such combination of project/language exists"

Do i need some form of check page or something?

Or is there something else?

It is running media wiki

Cheers

Reedy Boy 18:53, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

You need to specify scripts path e.g. for wikipedia it's en.wikipedia.org/w/ MaxSem 20:17, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
I changed it so you only need to enter "en.wikipedia.org". Martin 20:23, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
That website is probably using a version of mediawiki that doesn't support the API. Martin 20:27, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
The problem is that not every non-Wikimedia site use /w/ as a place for MediaWiki installation. MaxSem 20:59, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
Oh right, I didn't know that, how annoying. I'll change it if you haven't already then. Martin 13:25, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Suppose i'll pull of a new version from the SVN when i get home. =) I'll let you know. Cheers Reedy Boy 15:19, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Is the script directory where it runs for editing? As i noticed the /w/ on wiki whilst editing here, but on the one i want to use, it just uses like http://wiki.procooling.com/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=edit ,whereas wiki uses the /w/ whatever ie http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:AutoWikiBrowser&action=edit&section=11 Reedy Boy 15:24, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
That's right, the problem on that particular webpage now (that I have corrected the software as MaxSem suggested) is that it doesn't seem to support the api, I guess you'll find these sites will upgrade in time to a version of mediawiki that includes the api. Martin 16:12, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Well, that, or i'll go and ask the owner nicely... Thanks Martin!! Reedy Boy 16:29, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Its listed as on v 1.5.4 Reedy Boy 16:32, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Links in section titles

With 3050, internal links such as

==[[Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser]]==

are turned into :

==Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser==

How to skip this *** correction? I've tried some (={2})(.*\[\[.*\]\].*)(={2}) RegEx, but It doesn't work ... Or I didn't manage to make it work !

Someone can help me ?

Thanks a lot,

Liquid_2003 - Talk 11:41, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

In the next release this will only be for en.wiki, see Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(headings)#Linking. Martin 11:54, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Rather than lose potentially valuable wikilinks, might I suggest that....

==Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser==

be changed to

==Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser==
Main article: Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser

? TheMadBaron 19:37, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

seems like an excelent program..

..unfortunatley I get the 0xc0000135 Application Error .. anyone know how I could fix that?

I was also wondering , are there any other programs which wiki-contributers could use to keep track of contributed articles and help correct wiki content ? --Acidburn24m 17:45, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

FAQ on the top of this page: you need to install .NET Framework 2.0. MaxSem 17:52, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Images

A minor quibble.... apologies if it has already been addressed.

An AWB edit to The Long Good Friday would have changed "Long good friday DVD.jpg" to "Long good Friday DVD.jpg".... capitalising the names of days would normally be desirable, of course, but in this instance, it would have broken the image. Obviously, vigilant editors will catch things like this.... but can't AWB just be persuaded to leave images alone? TheMadBaron 19:46, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Ive got one thing on my watchlist like that, its a country name, that it wants to capitalise.... Reedy Boy 19:49, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
Looks like it's RegexTypoFix... MaxSem 20:42, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Tagging Category pages with {{wikify}}

One minor bug that keeps coming up is that AWB always wants to add {{wikify}} to category pages. Can this be changed in future versions? Caknuck 06:21, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Yep, updated code so that it wouldn't autotag non-mainspace pages. MaxSem 06:54, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Insignificant Edit Templates

Now and again, i come accross people doing insignificant edits with AWB. This is of course, against the rules of AWB.

In some cases, they end up typo edit summary, but no changes....

Rather than having to manually write out something to ask them nicely to refrain from doing it, would it be possible to create a template for it ie {{Wikipedia:AutowikiBrowser/Insignificant Edits}} , and then we can sign against it?

Would anyone else see a use for this?

Cheers


Sam

No. --Ligulem 23:39, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
I like it, Be Bold and create it! —Mets501 (talk) 00:50, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
Wikipedia:AutowikiBrowser/Insignificant Edit I'll have a go then Reedy Boy 17:37, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
Making it on my sandbox atm - User:Reedy Boy/Sandbox Reedy Boy 17:56, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
{{User:Reedy Boy/Sandbox|http://google.co.uk/|~~~~}} Seems to work fine for me. Im gonna move it to the AWB page, and it needs making prettyful/in a box :D Or something, with a warning Arrow =D Reedy Boy 18:19, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
Ok, it does it all - Including putting on the Title. Just paste {{Wikipedia:AutowikiBrowser/Insignificant Edit|url|~~~~}}
See below for example. Something may need doing witht the Hi! Reedy Boy 18:28, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

{{Wikipedia:AutowikiBrowser/Insignificant Edit|url|[[User:Reedy Boy|Reedy Boy]] 18:28, 6 November 2006 (UTC)}}

Ugh, looks even more serious than {{defban}} %) MaxSem 18:44, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
The ideas there, its just not very aesthetically pleasing... Any ideas anyone? Reedy Boy 19:44, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Error loading Typos page on en:Wikinews

I am getting the error that AWB cannot load the page "WikinewsAutoWikiBrowser/Typos". Obviously there should be a colon there but the program doesn't seem to insert it. Any help would be appreciated. --Skenmy(t•c•n) 22:10, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

I have confirmed this with the latest version, earlier versions work and have been in use on en.wikinews.org for some time. The project is picking up more users of the tool as we embark on categorization projects. --Brianmc 22:17, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
Damn, my fault. I've fixed it now. MaxSem 23:10, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
How can we get it working - do we need to redownload? --Skenmy(t•c•n) 16:50, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
If your using teh SVN version, grab and compile a new copy. Or else, you'll have to wait for martin to release the next version. Reedy Boy 18:23, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

still bad working

  • still checks typos (and other "find and replace" stuff) into internal links: [1]
  • bad sorting categories: [2] - this one is really obstacle, [3]
  • ignoring images (into find and replace) too greedy, won't catch this:[4]
  • ignoring images won't include those into galleries [5]
  • after convertion of settings file to the new format, it contains many strings like: "\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\", found now something like this"\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\[\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\[ang\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\.]]" I removed most of backslashes to not to flood, should I remove all of this? what's going on? (the valid was [[ang.]], I'm not sure if it's always true but the problems are into lines which parameters <IsRegex></IsRegex> are "false"
  • another doubtful behavior [6], [7]

--gregul

  • Some of these, including the \\\ issue, should be fixed in the next release. thanks Martin 14:56, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
  • now it's worse
"parsing "[[USA|" undeterminant [] set" (<Find>[[USA|</Find> <Replace>[[Stany Zjednoczone|</Replace> <IsRegex>false</IsRegex>)
because AWB ncan't handle non-regexes, I changed all to regex, but when i try to load i get: "There is an error in XML document (1374,18)"
after removing regex that is in the 1374 line the error still is in the same place so AWB can't be used
PS. a lot of empty rules appeared in find and replace – advanced --gregul
When looking at the save file, for non-regexes it should look like "<Find>\[\[USA\|</Find> <Replace>[[Stany Zjednoczone|</Replace> <IsRegex>false</IsRegex>", as they are all saved as regexes, but escaped when it is not actually meant to be a regex. I don't really recommend changing the settings file manually. I'll look into the empty rules thing. Martin 16:27, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

User name problem

When I try to use AWB, I get the error message "R\'n\'B can't use this." Apparently my login cookie stores my user name as R\'n\'B instead of R'n'B, which is how it appears on the check page. Perhaps if you add the backslashes to the check page, it will work? (This is my punishment for getting clever with my user name, I guess.) --Russ (talk) 14:22, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

I'll change your user name for now to R\'n\'B. Martin 15:03, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
It will be fixed in the next release. So the registered name will need to be changed back if you upgrade. Martin 15:17, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

What if it does not decompress on downlad?

HI, it downladed as a .rar file. My computer does not seem to know what to do with it. Cheers, :) Dlohcierekim 14:59, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Normally I put a zip file up, I forgot to change the default setting this time. WinRar will decompress the .rar file, or you can download a slightly older version, or wait for the next release. Martin 15:03, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
Found a zip. Thanks. Cheers, :) Dlohcierekim 15:59, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Module bug

Hi Martin, just letting you know that when you click "Make module", the text "Module compiled and loaded" covers the text "language". Just a little minor thing. —Mets501 (talk) 15:27, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Fixed. MaxSem 16:45, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
Are you developing now, MaxSem? Or is there a new release out? —Mets501 (talk) 17:05, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
New release will be out soon with this and other fixes, need to do some testing first. Martin 17:26, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
Great! No rush, I was just curious :-) —Mets501 (talk) 18:51, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
Answer: MaxSem has SVN write access now I believe so, yes, he is developing. Martin still puts out the official releases though.
Question: What's this "make module" feature then?? --kingboyk 19:15, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
It's just a very simple way to create, compile, and run C# (and presumably VB soon?) plug-ins while running AWB. You just type the code right into a built-in editor and it compiles and everything! You should try it out; it's pretty cool. —Mets501 (talk) 21:23, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
Dunno if it is only in the latest SVN... But, Advanced --> Make Module Reedy Boy 21:28, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
I suppose the VB would come later... Wouldnt be hard =) Reedy Boy 21:33, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
VB kept giving me errors, probably because I don't understand the syntax. Martin 10:03, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
That's damn clever Martin! (in theory, not tried it yet). (I suppose I should now revel in the glory and remind everyone that plugins were my idea ;)).
I haven't done any development on my plugin for a while, am I gonna get any nasty API shocks? --kingboyk 21:25, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
The plugin interface has changed a bit, now saving settings returns an object and loading settings receives an object, (in fact I've just changed it to an array of objects). This way is much nicer/easier to work with. Other than that I suspect it is unlikely there are many serious issues. Martin 10:58, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
I've had a report that the Plugin menu has disappeared in the latest AWB, which I suspect is due to this. Can you leave the older versions on the active list until I have time to modify the pluguin? (See User talk:Kingbotk/Plugin). --kingboyk 10:11, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
Hah! C# seems rather funny to me =P. If you want some help with the VB side of stuff, i've got no problem helping you out with it martin. Give me a shout if you do =) Reedy Boy 17:36, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
Right! C# is for masochists I reckon :) --kingboyk 21:25, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
Heh, i find it weird getting everything with intellisense.... Its rather strange.... Anyway, as i said, want some help with it. Give me a shout Reedy Boy 21:45, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

No plugins in the latest version

Hi Martin, I just downloaded the latest version of AWB and overwrote the previous one. However, this version does not have a plugins menu. When I try to load the plugin, I get an error. Can you give me the link to the previous version so that I can revert back to that. I am using Kingbotk/plugins to run my bot. Thanks -- Lost(talk) 10:33, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Older versions are available on the Sourceforge, but I'm not sure which one you need, probably best to download Kingbotk's package that contains the plugin as well. Martin 11:01, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
Ok thanks -- Lost(talk) 14:56, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

moving stubs

I haven't checked 3.0.5.1 yet, but I now discovered still wrong behavior [8] a stub section (pl.wiki) is moved, wasn't it told that moving stubs will be only applied to :en? or maybe I'm wrong --gregul

Freezing on new messages

Whenever I get new messages, AWB freezes and can't be exited without using CtrlAltDel. I imagine there's supposed to be some sort of buttons to click to return to the program once you've checked your messages, but these buttons are not appearing for me, and so the little pop-up box that tells me I have new messages cannot be closed. Please help. (I have mentioned this program before, about a month ago - another editor suggested simply "that shouldn't be happening. try hitting Alt-Tab." Well, I appreciate the advice, friend, but that didn't work.) LordAmeth 14:21, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Doesn't it give you options? Like from where to check your messages? It should do that and then after you check your messages, you should be able to just go under file and hit "Login". Cbrown1023 21:47, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
Nope. The little box that pops up to let you know you have messages doesn't go away, and it won't let me click anywhere else in the program, such as on the File menu, or the red X to close the program. LordAmeth 23:36, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Aesthetic changes

Just a few minor proposals for looks and functionality:

  1. The "stop" button (the one in the bottom panel, not on the tool bar), should be as wide as the buttons above and below it. You might also want to give it a slight reddish tint and give the "start the process" button a slightly greenish tint.
  2. When clicking "More" in the skip articles box, the window that pops up is too tall for its contents, and its title should be "Skip Options", not "SkipOptions".
  3. Also in the Skip Options dialog box it should say "Skip if no tag changed", as everything else in that box is in the past tense.
  4. The input box where you can manually add articles to be processed is quite small; it would probably be better if it was moved below the list of articles so it could be stretched.
  5. In the auto mode groupbox, the text "Delay (seconds)" is not faded out when the user does not have bot rights.
  6. In the automatic edit summary, when fixing typos a comma should be added before the word "Typos"

—Mets501 (talk) 23:05, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Feature request

In the "Find & Replace" pop-up box it would be great to have more control than just "Ignore external/interwiki links, images, nowiki, math and ". Would it be possible to have separate check boxes for each of these separate items? For example I often wish to change the spelling of a word in the description line of an image thumbnail, but not the occurance of the same word in the filename which would produce a broken link. Any chance of changing this? Bobo12345 11:35, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Don't automate writing style

Just a reminder for AWB users: please don't make writing-style changes using automatic methods. Recent examples:

  • User talk:Koavf#Please stop!—thousands of changes of links like "Russian Federation" to "Russia", which could significantly change meaning and created nonsense like "the President of Russia, known commonly as the President of Russia," and factually incorrect statements like "the Russian Census of 2002 ... was the first census of Russia."
  • User talk:SDC#Machines shouldn't dictate writing style—thousands of removals of hyphens from compound adjectives like "electrically-charged", in many cases creating ambiguity, and incorrectly alterning proper names, titles of cited works, and direct quotations.

Please folks, remember to use this power wisely, and not as a substitute for your good judgment. Don't use automation to write. Thanks. —Michael Z. 2006-11-14 15:49 Z

Remember that AWB can be disabled by an admin, as I have done now for the first example, the second example looks more like the editor just needs to be more careful. thanks Martin 16:29, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
Quite right. But it's critical to think twice about which kind of edit is suitable for AWB and which requires an editor's discrimination, before pulling the trigger on an AWB editing session. Pointing out significant problems after so many hundreds of edits underlines AWB's thousandfold increase of the power to screw up, but I think a lesser increase in the ability to clean up the mess afterwards. Thanks. —Michael Z. 2006-11-14 17:55 Z
[I apologize for my previous edit summary, which, as Ligulem pointed out was in poor taste —Michael Z. 2006-11-14 18:58 Z]
Don't beat yourself up too much--some of us got the intended chuckle out of it. -Eric (talk) 21:56, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

I appreciate SDC's attempts to "fix" style problems, but I agree with the above, and I don't see this hyphen removal project as particularly productive. The inverse—lack of appropriate hyphenation—seems to be a much more common problem. Perhaps SDC could take his or her goal oriented nature and use the ever valuable AWB to hyphenate poorly-written sentences like this. :-) –Outriggr § 01:05, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Unicodifying

I have a user questioning me on my talk page on why I unicodified some stuff in an article. I was fixing some typos in the article using AWB, and there were also some unicode corrections. How do I respond? --Thiseye 03:10, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Keeps restarting

I just started playing with it, I can gets lists, filter lists, etc. But when I try a test article and press start, it loads into the top window, and then keeps restarting a counter at the bottom for longer and longer periods. I must be missing something obvious. I've reset my monobook.js to be empty, reset the IE settings to default. The lower right window stays blank. --ArmadilloFromHell 21:43, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

I upgraded to IE 7 and the problem went away --ArmadilloFromHell 16:19, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Feature Request

Hay... I'd love to see a few little things. 1. It would be nice to have an option to remove empty sections. Also, I'd like to see an option to disable image-loading. (Limited to AWB only, so my normal browser will still work) ---J.S (t|c) 06:59, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Removing text

I can't see a clear way of doing a Replace special and having the matched pattern deleted. If I leave the replace string empty, then it does nothing. I've been tryng to remove lines, and got around it by changing the target string to a space, but that only works if Apply general fixes is set since that removes the superflous space - at least for the case I'm working on. --ArmadilloFromHell 07:47, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Replacing with nothing works fine for me. Martin 10:16, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
Yeah... works for me. If your using Regex then you need to make sure the regex check-box is checked. (I had that problem recently) ---J.S (t|c) 18:02, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Some minor issues with the latest version

Just a couple of things:

  • The setting which enables the toolbar is no longer being activated on loading a settings file. My current file contains <ToolBarEnabled>true</ToolBarEnabled> but the toolbar fails to appear on loading.
  • Could we have an option as to whether to save the Article-list with a settings file? It can be handy to save the list if you're preparing a task to be processed later, but it does bloat the settings file somewhat. Also when you load, could we have an option to over-write the current list with that in the settings file? At the moment it appears to silently ignore the saved list.
  • I would like an option to "skip" the current item rather than to "ignore" it…in other words save it for later and move on to the next item in the list. This can be handy when preparing a task to be processed later: I copy my settings file between my machines at work and at home, and it would be handy if I could simply set the former going to generate a list of pages which fit the current criteria and then process them on the latter at my leisure. If this is not possible in AWB itself, is it doable with the "Make module" gadget?
  • Speaking of the "Make module" gadget, am I being daft? I can't find any documentation on what to do with it…

TIA HAND —Phil | Talk 11:27, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Oh, while I think of it, could AWB please blank the "browser pane" whilst merrily skipping down the list finding an article which matches the looked-for criteria? I'm sure it's slowing it down to display stuff only to discard it immediately… HTH HAND —Phil | Talk 11:43, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

IRC channel

It's getting a bit lonely out there, and I'm not always on-line to help people—quite a few times recently I've noticed that people have popped in while I'm AFK (asleep or eating or something) and had to go away without help. Could I have some extra help manning the IRC channel, particularly during my night, please? I'm in the GMT timezone, so between 2200 UTC and 0600 UTC the channel is effectively unmonitored. TIA HAND —Phil | Talk 12:01, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

A couple of things

Hi Martin, thanks for committing some of my aesthetic requests above. Just a couple of more things. —Mets501 (talk) 21:45, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

1

In GetLists.cs (in WikiFunctions)

Google = Google.Replace("_", " ");
string URL = "http://www.google.com/search?q=" + Google + "+site:" + Variables.URL + "&num=100&hl=en&lr=&start=0&sa=N";
string title = "";

should be

Google = Google.Replace("_", " ");
string URL = "http://www.google.com/search?q=" + Google + "+site:" + Variables.URL + "&num=100&hl=en&lr=&start=0&sa=N&filter=0";
string title = "";

because otherwise Google omits a lot of results. —Mets501 (talk) 22:01, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, done, you forgot about another URL below though. MaxSem 23:00, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
Whoops! Thanks for implementing it :-) —Mets501 (talk) 23:04, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

2

In ListMaker.cs, line 243

case SourceType.GoogleWikipedia:
    lblSourceSelect.Text = "Google search";
    txtSelectSource.Enabled = true;
    chkWLHRedirects.Visible = false;

should be

case SourceType.GoogleWikipedia:
    lblSourceSelect.Text = "Search for";
    txtSelectSource.Enabled = true;
    chkWLHRedirects.Visible = false;

because "Google search" doesn't fit on one line, and therefore "search" doesn't display at all and "Google" is misaligned. —Mets501 (talk) 22:01, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Do you use "Large fonts" option in Windows? On my system it fits the combo box OK. BTW, the widest option is "What transcludes here" anyway. MaxSem 23:00, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
Oh yeah, that's so weird. What transcludes here is fine, but Google search is not. What happens is that "Google" appears raised and "search" does not appear at all, so I figured it was a width issue. Weird. (And I don't use the large fonts) —Mets501 (talk) 23:04, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

3

Adding a page to the list would be much easier if ListMaker.cs looked like Image:AWB interface improvement.png. —Mets501 (talk) 22:01, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Done. MaxSem 23:00, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks! —Mets501 (talk) 23:04, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
I've just noticed the add text box is cut off at the edge of the groupbox, made a little bit too big it seems! Reedy Boy 23:12, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, I noticed it too. It's weird, it's not to big in the ListMaker designer but in the main frame it's stretched. I'm looking into it. —Mets501 (talk) 23:31, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
Done. MaxSem 23:34, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, the text-box wasn't anchored to the right, it was fixed width. Thanks. —Mets501 (talk) 23:36, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Latest SVN Release

Hi, Has someone changed the way page names are handled? As ive just grabbed teh latest SVN release, and anything with a space in it, it is now putting a + between them, and then the pages cant be found....

Just thought i'd make you aware

=)


Reedy Boy 21:12, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Looks like someone has sorted this out now on teh new SVN release. Thanks Reedy Boy 22:59, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

One more thing

I hope I'm not getting annoying :-) If I am let me know. Anyway,

            this.groupBox4.Text = "Appeding/Prepend text";

should be

            this.groupBox4.Text = "Append/Prepend text";

in Main.cs. It's missing an n (appending) and the verb form is incorrect.—Mets501 (talk) 03:20, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Anyone think Mets is after SVN write access? =D Reedy Boy 23:30, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
I'm really just trying to help out. The thought hadn't crossed my mind. Honestly. Although, now that you mention it... :-) —Mets501 (talk) 03:50, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

general fixes

maybe applying general fixes BEFORE and AFTER "find and replace" (2 times) would be reasonable

there are situations when general fixes should be applied before, but sometimes should be applied after, and if one of this options is active, occasionaly some changes would be missed, maybe it wouldn't cause AWB to work slower gregul

I've noticed that AWB does some edits to things but then misses some stuff out ie here. It changes {{Template:Muscles_of_neck}} to {{Muscles_of_neck}} , but doesnt move it to the bottom like the others... Is this what you are meaning? If not, Martin, any ideas on this? Reedy Boy 21:11, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
I want to fix redirect from [[Laser (źródło światła)| -> [[Laser| , so if the link looks like [[Laser_(źródło_światła)|, or contains another special characters, general fixes should be applied BEFORE to have changed it to [[Laser| , but there are situations when after doing "find and replace", there appear some structures to which general fix can be applied, but I can't find an example now gregul

Feature request

I make use of AWB on Wikinews to do the pre-archiving cleanup. A feature that would be really useful to me is having a button to pop up the current article's history in a new window. A list of what should be done on a Wikinews article prior to it being protected can be found here. --Brianmc 19:22, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Good idea. Very simple to implement too if Martin wants to :-) —Mets501 (talk) 23:01, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
Already submitted by Martin a couple of hours after this request was posted. MaxSem 23:06, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
I'll look forward to seeing this in the next release thanks! --81.243.180.100 12:02, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Adding Hebrew Wikipedia

Is it possible to add Hebrew Wikipedia to supported projects? The URL is he.wikipedia.org.

(Am i the first one to ask that?) --Amir E. Aharoni 14:07, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

It is listed in the languages under preferences in AWB.... Reedy Boy 21:13, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
Either i am insane, or it is just not there.
I am using version 3.0.5.2. --Amir E. Aharoni 09:17, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
You're not insane, it will be there in the next release, Reedy boy probably is looking at the latest development version. Martin 10:26, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Thank you very much. --Amir E. Aharoni 10:52, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, i am, sorry for the confusion!! Reedy Boy 12:02, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Can the interface be translated to Hebrew? Yonidebest 01:48, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
I suppose it could be, but it would be a very long job... And make maintenance more difficult, depending on how the changes were done... Probably the reason its only in english, as its constantly undergoing rapid development Reedy Boy 21:55, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
I see. Perhaps adding a mediawiki-like way of changing the interface language would be good - this way the software can be used overseas too. i.e. have a txt file that contains all of the interface captions. Yonidebest 23:22, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Load/Save settings files

We're in the process of categorising people (and groups of people) on Wikinews so you get pages like George W. Bush and Hezbollah, aaand I've noticed a minor niggle when loading and saving settings files.

If I save a file set up to go throught all the articles as Helen Clark then load one John Howard to make some changes to it the next time I go to save it has remembered the name of the file I last saved, Helen Clark, and not the name of the one I loaded, John Howard.

This is just a niggle, as long as I'm careful I'm not going to lose a settings file, but it'd be nice to remember what you loaded.

The other thing to avoid losing setup files would be if when you save a new one it backs up the old one in .xml.bck.

On the other hand, I'd like to once again say thanks for creating and continuing to update such a useful tool. --Brianmc 12:13, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

AWB/DB Scanner

Hi, Just doing my DB scan on my wiki dump using AWB, noticed a few things.

Although the list is loaded into AWB, there is no count given in AWB. I presume this is from the count event for the listbox not being called? I know it wouldnt be the best idea doing it every item, but maybe say every minute or something?

The "Save result list", just creates a blank file... And to save the list in the actual AWB program, little annoying, but you need to click start, and then you can save it (ie start tab)


I also found an exception earlier, but i cant seem to find it again


Very useful tool =)

Thanks!

Reedy Boy 19:58, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

The exception is a clipboard handling error Reedy Boy 22:36, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
It also seems the limit no. of results is ignored. Just out of interest, from where i had reached in the DB scan of making AWB typo lists, it found 91061 matches, but the limit was on 30000 Reedy Boy 10:31, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
The About of the DB Scanner shows nothing in the scrolling text box (rich text box) - Would be better if it was the same as the AWB one Reedy Boy 12:51, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Ignore non-existent pages

Where is the button to uncheck this option (Gnevin 20:21, 24 November 2006 (UTC))

Click the Set Options tab, then Untick "Skip non-existing pages" Reedy Boy 20:29, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
Awe right under my nose, thanks (Gnevin 20:32, 24 November 2006 (UTC))

Focus problems

I keep getting caught when the focus moves to the "edit summary" drop-down without me noticing, and I end up doing several edits in succession with an incorrect summary before I notice. Please fix it so that focus stops jumping around, this is getting really annoying. TIA HAND —Phil | Talk 08:13, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

I think i saw something on the SVN logs of a fix to this in the latest source. If i am correct, this will be fixed in the next release Reedy Boy 18:37, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
That would be great... I too keep getting hit with this, like if focus accidentally goes to the summary box and then changes when I use the mousewheel or something. It would be nice to have a checkbox like "lock edit summary". --Elonka 20:58, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Regex and settings

With the new versions of AWB, I've noticed that it's not saving my regex backslash characters. Like, in my "Find/replace" box, it's supposed to insert {{uncat|November 2006}}\r\n. If I enter it in manually, AWB does the find/replace just fine, but when I try to "save" the settings, it doesn't remember the "\r\n" part. For awhile it was just saving it as a box, and with this newest version it's not saving it at all. I can work around this by re-entering the characters each time I boot AWB, but it would be nice to have them saveable again. --Elonka 21:11, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Looks like this applies to all serialized strings. Gotta find if it's possible to automatically escape all those strings. Sure, I wrote code that encodes some strings straightforwardly, but I'd like to see more universal solution. MaxSem 22:16, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

AWB Adding Uncat Tag when page has categories

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Theatre_Under_the_Stars_%28Vancouver%29&diff=89093082&oldid=84558928

Any Ideas? Reedy Boy 22:57, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Looks like it acted properly. There were no "real" categories on that article, just stub categories. --Elonka 23:39, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
Ah, yeah, that makes sense then. Just one of those little things, but i cant see it happening too often Reedy Boy 11:46, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Login problem

I can't seem to use AWB 3.052 with my laptop today, as AWB keeps cycling through "Loading page to check if we are logged in." It successfully locates my user name (which shows up as green in the lower righthand corner), and sometimes it can even get a page loaded, but it still shows up as "You are not currently logged in" at the top of the window, and then it just sits there, repeatedly cycling through "loading page" and "loading page to check if we are logged in."

I've tried various methods to deal with this, including various permutations of loading a fresh copy of AWB, pre-logging-in via IE, trying the "login" option in the File menu, but nothing seems to work. I did note though that when I rolled back to earlier versions (3.015 and 3.029a), I correctly got the "You are not logged in" pop up (which the newer versions weren't doing), which then brought me to the login page. But even though they'll let me login, I can't use those versions of AWB, because they keep prompting me to upgrade to the newer versions.  ;) So I guess I'm stuck, unless someone knows how to disable that "upgrade to newer version" block? --Elonka 23:41, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

(update) On a different computer (desktop, not laptop), the "You are not logged in" pop up appears normally. However, if I attempt to run multiple instances of AWB (when I'm on a roll I routinely have 3 or 4 going at once), the login information is not saved per session, and I need to separately login with each instance. With earlier versions of AWB, only one login was required, and the other instances of AWB would "remember" the login info. --Elonka 03:24, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia Urdu

Is it possible to enable AutoWikiBrowser for Wikipedia Urdu? What is required to do so? Szhaider 23:03, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

You have requested it here, you just need to wait for MaxSem or Martin to add it to the sources, and await the next build =) Reedy Boy 19:45, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
Done. MaxSem 05:52, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
We have different words there. For example for "Category" we use زمرہ and so on and so forth. Are they automatically fixed? How about spelling check? Szhaider 02:19, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Yes, localized namespaces are fully supported. For spellchecking, you need to define a ruleset yourself, for details see WP:RETF. I'm still working on getting lists from Google search though. MaxSem 19:40, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Done, now it should search every project and much less relies on precise HTML output. MaxSem 20:30, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Regextypo fix ignore in [[Image:]]

Hi Can we get AWB to ignore typo's in Image names/image tags? As ive seen a few pics with countries in them, and then it makes the image unfindable

Cheers

Reedy Boy 21:55, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

  • good idea, all (typos, find and replace matches etc.) into [[image:]] and internal links [[ ]] should be ignored :> pl:wikipedysta:gregul
Skipping image file names and external link addresses is good, but internal links often need to be fixed. —Mets501 (talk) 01:15, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Well, as images are [[Image:ImageName.extension]] , and external links [http://website linkname] , this should be feasible. But like Mets501 said, internal links are needed, as some do have typos in Reedy Boy 10:19, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

<Typo word="Oft(en)times" find="\b(O|o)ft(|en)[- ]times\b" replace="$1ft$2times" /

Often Times to Oftentimes ???

It might be me, but that seems like a use that would be sparsely used?

Or is it just me?

Reedy Boy 23:15, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Watchlist bug

Has any experienced a bug where AWB is adding pages too your watch list even thought the options is unselected ? (Gnevin 22:37, 28 November 2006 (UTC))

Yes, though it's not so much a bug, as "just one of those things."  ;) Evidently the toggle on AWB can only be used to turn on watchlisting if it's already off in your normal preferences. If it's on in your normal preferences, the AWB toggle really has no effect. --Elonka 01:08, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
So i have to turn it off in my watchlist ok, Maybe this should be made a little clearer on the main page (Gnevin 11:47, 29 November 2006 (UTC))

SVN version 3.0.6.0

Hey, Can someone enable this version for me?

Cheers

Reedy Boy 16:33, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Notice its been done - Thanks Martin =) Reedy Boy 10:40, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Change request

The Start tab defaults the focus to the edit summary field. Several times I've found this has meant I've inadvertantly scrolled to a different edit summary. Could it default to a different field? Rich Farmbrough, 22:48 29 November 2006 (GMT).

It could be. Quite easily, a simple change for MaxSem or Martin... What would you prefer it on? Reedy Boy 10:37, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Building on from this, it would be good if there was an "Add edit summary" button so that custom edit summaries could be saved without digging through the config file. Harryboyles 10:47, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Done, fixed both problems. MaxSem 12:38, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. Rich Farmbrough, 00:45 2 December 2006 (GMT).

Hitting return in the summery box already added the current edit summary to the list. Martin 15:07, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Insert Tag

Regarding the insert tag option contained in the edit box context menu, how does one add additional tags?--Balloonguy 22:55, 30 November 2006 (UTC)