User talk:Authoritative

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[edit] 3RR on Banu Nadir

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Banu Nadir. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. ITAQALLAH 16:27, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

regarding your edits on Banu Nadir, you are inserting unsourced information which is your own original research. in one specific change from that edit, you are inserting your own deductions which are not found in the source you attribute it to. i believe i had previously explained this to you. Stillman says nothing about what Ibn Ishaq says or does not say- that is your own inference which you have incorrectly attributed to the source, as were the previous variable assertions using the same citation. please consider studying WP:OR thoroughly and argue your desired changes on the talk page before reverting further. thanks. ITAQALLAH 16:37, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

The record is clear. It is you who keeps reposting the same text without discussion in violation of the rules.

Furthermore, it is unsourced information attributed to Ibn Ishaq who never said such a thing. user: Authoritative

[edit] Re:Banu Nadir

Hi,

The content in question is sourced to "al-Halabi, Nur al-Din. Sirat-i-Halbiyyah. Uttar Pradesh: Idarah Qasmiyyah Deoband, 34. Translated by Muhammad Aslam Qasmi." This is multi-volume source dating back atleast 100 years (but not too far back), so you may not find it easily. Please note that I don't own a copy of this, nor (the copy that I read) was it in English. I doubt this has ever been translated into English, so I can't provide the exact quote for you. BTW, do you understand Arabic, Farsi or Urdu? If yes, please e-mail me, and I may be able to provide you with some sort verification.Bless sins (talk) 18:21, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

You may provide the Arabic link. Authoritative (talk) 18:43, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

I reiterate my call that you substantiate or retract your story. Authoritative (talk) 19:47, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

There is no link. I'm not talking about a website, but rather a book.Bless sins 18:11, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

You may quote the exact words of the book on the alleged Jewish invitation to discuss religion. It sounds a lot like the Muslim invitation to Banu Nadir's Usayr ibn Zarim who was slaughtered on the way to the debate along with his delegation of thirty men except one who fled.

I wonder why no Islamic website makes any mention of this story. Perhaps because it contradicts the widely known account of Muhammad's request for a contribution. Authoritative 19:55, 4 December 2007 (UTC)