Talk:Autumn Phillips

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This article was nominated for deletion on October 18, 2007. The result of the discussion was keep.

[edit] Middle Name

The cite for her middle name is contained in the Privy Council announcement of the Queen's consent to the marriage. Ariadne55 (talk) 13:10, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Encyclopaedic???

Is this an encyclopaedia or a tabloid gossip column. There is nothing encyclopaedic about the colour or designer of bridesmaids' dresses, or about going to a family dinner with her then fiancé. Kevin McE (talk) 11:34, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Disagree on the first. The family dinner showed her status within the Royal Family before marriage, and for a royal partner this is important. I agree regarding the colour & designer of bridesmaids dresses though, but do believe the fact Zara Phillips was a bridesmaid should be kept.--UpDown (talk) 11:44, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Is it really remarkable that the groom's sister acts as a bridesmaid? Not that unusual in my experience. Kevin McE (talk) 16:44, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Maybe not, but if you remove what might be counted as part of a "usual" life in an article on a royal you would be left with very little information. Royalty are notable for being who they are and the details of their lives are notable, not their careers like an actor or singer.--UpDown (talk) 18:34, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Which is why if I had seen the discussion in time, I would have added my voice in favour of the deletion of the article, on the grounds that she is not notable for anything other than her attachment to someone not notable for anything other than his attachment to someone else. Kevin McE (talk) 20:15, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

On that grounds every article for every royal would be deleted! They are notable for who they are - they do not need extra notablity.--UpDown (talk) 20:27, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Agreed (which is largely why I have little sympathy with monarchism), but unto how many degrees of removal from any authority or anyone who actually carries out royal duties does this extend? Will the spouses of Peter and Autumn's children get articles? Their children? Is anyone of interest to the gossip columnists therefore worthy of an article? And if so, will the article be any more than a digest of scurrilous tittle-tattle? Kevin McE (talk) 23:25, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

I would say that their children and their spouses would not get articles (unless of course they become notable for any reason). Any of their details would be on Phillips & Kelly's articles.--UpDown (talk) 07:18, 19 May 2008 (UTC)