Talk:Auto rickshaw

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Auto rickshaw is a former featured article. Please see the links under Article milestones below for its original nomination page (for older articles, check the nomination archive) and why it was removed.

This article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page as Today's featured article on July 21, 2004.

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The article at present implies that autos are restricted to south Asia. Auto rickshaws are used in other countries also. Perhaps also in some parts of Africa? though this might be my memory playing tricks. Imc 18:02, 16 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Well, they are standard transport in South Asia... so naturally the article will focus on that area... but which countries in the South East have comparable use of autos? (I know they do have places like that but I don't know which ones) --LordSuryaofShropshire 18:09, Apr 16, 2004 (UTC)

Please excuse my rather shabby description of my minor edit. I find I cannot edit the edit summary L-Bit 06:41, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

One of the users (User:Dmn) thinks that this article is dull, but voted nuetral in the FAC page. Can I move this to the featured article page ? - Kesava 05:25, 27 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Not sure what dull means. The user hasn't specified whether it was his lack of interest in the article that made it dull, or the writing style - or if it can be improved. And the vote is neutral - very ambiguous. I guess, one could wait for a couple of days and move it. Chancemill 05:51, Apr 27, 2004 (UTC)

A neutral vote is not an objection and so I misused the line "If there are no objections after at least one week, candidates can be added to FA" and added this article to FA. - Kesava 13:02, 27 Apr 2004 (UTC)

[edit] India

This is very specific to India right now - would anyone mind if we stripped the specific stuff into one section and the general into another? Mark Richards 00:20, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)

--just split it...needs editing tho

No, do not split it. Disemboweling a featured article while it's on the main page is bad enough; but all you've done is remove 90% of the article and write a stub(s) for other countries (just Pakistan so far). Why not incorporate those stubs into this article, if you're not going to write more? -- Hadal 04:01, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Please don't disembowel articles that so many people have worked on, without discussion. This is especially unwise as the article is currently featured; all the content belongs in the original article as you seem to be writing stubs (or plan to) for all countries aside from India. -- Hadal 03:56, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Agree with hadal on Auto rickshaw -- Chris 73 | Talk 03:59, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I haven't deleted anything. It's just most of the info is specific to india and it would be nice to get info on the autos in other countries as well. All the india info is still there...there was already a request for splitting off the general stuff from the country-specific stuff. I'm not deleting any writing.

Since the auto is so common in other places, maybe there should be an easy way to incorporate that information...I know it is used n Bandkok and the engines in those autos are much more powerful.

You can add content to the Auto rickshaw article, but currently i am against a split. Actually, i have reversed you split and made the other pages in a redirect -- Chris 73 | Talk 04:06, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)

You're moving content when it is not necessary to do so; if enough is written on rickshaw use in other countries, perhaps there might be some merit in a move. Also note that the article focuses on India because they are such a fixture of the country, and there are probably more in use in India than anywhere else. As for the "request", it was a suggestion by one user; such a drastic change should be discussed first. (This is the last time I'm crossposting.. this convo is scattered enough.) -- Hadal 04:09, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)

To be clear, I was not suggesting splitting the article, but moving information into sections on India specific, and rickshaws in general. I do not support separate articles on each country that has them (there are many countries where they are a central part of transport life). Mark Richards 22:05, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I wonder what the difference between motor tricycles and auto rickshaw is... I think "auto rickshaw" is a word borrowed from Indian English. auto rickshaw is used to indicates motor tricles of India only or maybe slang of motor tricycle. This article must be moved.--Ramendra 19:23, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Heard some where that rickshaw derives from some Japanese word that means "moves by human effort" and auto rickshaw is a paradoxical extension of that! -- Sundar 07:23, Aug 24, 2004 (UTC)

Your indication is true but more correctly it is a borrowed from Japanese word rikisha (as a reference, i am a Japanese). That's why I said rickshaw is a Indian English word.

Well, my sugestion is like this; this page is kept present position only for auto rickshaw in india. Next, we will creat new article named "motor tricycle" and made links to auto rickshaw, Samlo (tuk tuk's real name) and becak (Bajaj). And then move tuk tuk's and bajaj's writings to each links. By the way, in Thailand few of they also use the word auto rickshaw when they speak English but widly use tuk tuk, a slang word for samlo in English also. And in more formal place like this (Thai insurance companie's site) they use the word motor tricycle... In japan we also have "auto rcikshaw", but we call it auto-sanrinsha (lit. auto-tricycle). In my opinion, in English Wikipedia we should not let one borrow word represent the all kinds of other similar things without any pecular reasons.--Ramendra 18:42, 24 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Request for references

Hi, I am working to encourage implementation of the goals of the Wikipedia:Verifiability policy. Part of that is to make sure articles cite their sources. This is particularly important for featured articles, since they are a prominent part of Wikipedia. The Fact and Reference Check Project has more information. If some of the external links are reliable sources and were used as references, they can be placed in a References section too. See the cite sources link for how to format them. Thank you, and please leave me a message when a few references have been added to the article. - Taxman 19:54, Apr 22, 2005 (UTC)

Hi there! I came across this article while using AWB for clean up. I'd just like to echo Taxman's concern for the importance of references to WP articles. While I'm not familiar with this topic, it would seem that there'd be an extensive literature on a thing as widely used as the autorickshaw. I hope the article's editors can find and cite good, reliable ones. Thanks —Encephalon 06:27, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Meter works in Bangalore

I live in Bangalore, and i most cases I can drive by the meter price.

I live in Bangalore, and in most cases I can't (:

[edit] Becak and Bajaj in Indonesia

Becak and bajaj are two different things in Indonesia. Bajaj only refers to the vehicle pictured on the top of this article, while becak looks like this. Bajajs are never called becak in Indonesia. Hayabusa future 02:52, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Images

Please do not add images of alleged auto-rickshaw wallahs who are sitting outside an auto as it is unverifiable as to whether that person is actually a auto-wallah. Somebody recently added Media:222.jpg: which in no way seems like a portrait of an auto wallah.--May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ |-| r 3 $ |-| t |-|) 09:41, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Added Share auto

I added a section about Share auto. Hope that is in-line with the article. - Ganeshk 19:57, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Central America and Mexico

I'm currently travelling through Mexico and Central America. I have seen the Bajaj torito especially used throughout Guatemala, and also in various parts of El Salvador and Honduras. The vast majority in all countries are red with white soft tops. Another model I recently saw was called an Ape and the company name I've forgotten but looked Italian. In all places so far they have been called mototaxi (possibly written as two words sometimes). One of the towns in the Isthmus of Tehuantepec in Mexico has similar vehicles that seem to be locally made. I think they go by another name and I seem to recall the passengers sit on the back facing backwards, but I didn't go to this town on this trip. — Hippietrail 18:03, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bajaj in Indonesia

the 'Daihatsu Midget' is not know as 'Bajaj' in Indonesia, you got it all wrong, they're called 'Bemo', and only a small amount of them still operates. 'Bajaj' is the autorickshaw produced by Bajaj company in India

Bemos and bajajs are not the same thing, but the Jakartan bajaj is an autorickshaw imported from India. Here's one. Jpatokal 14:00, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What's In a Name?

There's lots of references throughout the article about what they're called in each country. How about a single list??? In Sri Lanka they're called Bajaj (as they're all made by Bajaj of India).

England - Tuk-Tuk, Auto-rickshaw (no matter what the brightonians say)
China - Auto rickshaw
Pakistan - Bajaj
India - Bajaj, Auto rickshaw
Thailand - Tuk-Tuk

Thats my list of what called what, I personally call them by its proper name - Auto rickshaw. Lenny 05:52, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merge with Tuk-tuk

With reference to above section on alternative names - seems to me they're two articles about the same vehicle under different names. I won't put a merge suggestion up just yet because I'm not sure if there is a technical difference between the two, but both pages cite the other as being an alternative name for the same thing. If anyone could enlighten me I'd appreciate it! I've posted this same message on the other page. Phunky 20:34, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Technically - a Tuk-tuk is a 25 year old 1 - 12 seater three-wheeled road items associated with thailand. While Auto rickshaw generally refers to the Bajaj Retro a 3 seater road item. Unisouth 10:03, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Where would such a technicality come from? Why would any vehicle resembling a small car based on a motorcycle platform and named "tuk tuk" not actually be a tuk tuk? — Hippietrail 11:37, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Well, basically they're the same thing -- at least they look so similar. I had never heard the name "tuktuk" before though, and I guess few people in the 1.5 billion strong Indian subcontinent where these are mostly found would have. Besides, "auto rickshaw" is more of a standard English name, and tuktuk is perhaps the colloquial name used in Thailand. Google yields marginally more results for "tuk tuk", but there are a lot of things called tuktuk: fonts, restaurants, etc. It would be funny if someone names a restaurant "Auto rickshaw". Tuktuk is infinitely cuter, but that's perhaps not a good reason to redirect this encyclopedia article to that name. deeptrivia (talk) 23:54, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Most areas where the three-wheelers are (taking my list in) mostly called auto-rickshaw or tuktuk although they are classed as the same road item no matter of design or constructer. Unisouth 15:36, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Bangkok's tuktuks resemble the Indian auto-rickshaw quite a bit, but elsewhere in Thailand (and Laos and Cambodia) it can refer to quite a range of vehicles, ranging from carts towed behind bikes to minivans fitted out with seats (overlapping with the songthaew). Indonesia's bajajs, on the other hand, are not just identical to but imported from India. Jpatokal 13:59, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Brighton tuctuc issues and its references

I have in recent weeks added references to this articles relating to brightons tuctucs. I have also added issues to this section as well. I am considering splitting all of this into a seperate article called Tuctuc Ltd. Unisouth 15:17, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Auto rickshaw is totally wrong name

What the hell is an auto rickshaw? I think a more appropriate name would be "three wheeled vehicle" or "motorbike taxi" or "motor carriage" something like that. This is a name that contradicts itself. Rickshaw means "human powered vehicle" so "auto rickshaw" is like a non-human powered human powered vehicle.

No, its not human powered, thats why it is called an Auto rickshaw. Unisouth 15:24, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Autorickshaw is the name used in Chennai (Madras, India) in English language publications. To distinguish, autorickshaws from the older pedal-powered rickshaws in Chennai, a pedal-powered rickshaw is called "pedal rickshaws". Pedal rickshaws can be designed for school children or for freight. The one's for school children are fancy and load up the children early in the morning in their bright uniforms with their little lunch pails. The freight pedal rickshaw is totally flat in back and can haul very heavy things (such as fancy metal bed frames) which cannot be carried in an autorichshaw. Autorickshaws are yellow for commercial use to carry passengers. Private autorickshaws (for delivery) are a dark color. The yellow autorickshaws are designed to carry two passengers. But for friends who are taking lots of the local kids to the amusement park, you can fit one adult passenger and 8 kids. One sits with the driver and pretends to be an assistant. Two small kids can fit in the luggage rack. The rest are piled on the one seat in the back. Care must be taken so the police do not see this. circa. 2003 Robert Elliott 23:31, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] hmm

Some person (probably a racist xenophobe from America) has added this to the article.

In cities such as Delhi, Mumbai, Kolkata, Chennai, Pune, Hyderabad and Bangalore, traffic-regulating authorities have tried to implement pre-paid schemes where the passengers pay pre-determined auto-fares (depending on the destination) to some central authority and board the autos. However, it is still far more common for a prospective passenger to simply flag down a rickshaw and negotiate a price without an intermediary official (for reasons like non-availability of prepaid autos at all locations and not wanting to queue up for a long time at the counter.)

EXCUSE ME - these facts are totally wrong. In Mumbai, auto-drivers always follow the meter. Same for Pune and Hyderabad. In Kolkata, autos are shuttles, which means that they have fixed routes and fixed fares. Five to an auto and when the three-wheeled contraption's full, it's off. This only applies for Delhi and Chennai. Upamanyuwiki 12:51, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

So why did I get charged 60 rupees to go from the Bawa to the domestic airport ( a trip around the block )? This guy was WAY off the meter. RussNelson 11:18, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Which city are you talking about? Where on earth is Bawa? Upamanyuwiki 11:53, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Per 2003, Mumbai auto drivers use charts to correct for outdated meters. There can be charts for day use, charts for night use, and of course, charts designed specifically for tourists from Chennai and other areas of India which do not speak the local language. Robert Elliott 23:45, 8 September 2007 (UTC)