Talk:Autarchism
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[edit] anarchism and libertarianism
[edit] Why the anarchism template is appropriate in this article
Although autarists don't always call themselves "anarchists," they do advocate statelessness insofar as we define a state as an entity external from the self and ruling over others. Like other forms of anarchism (e.g. anarcho-capitalism), autarchism believes in doing away with all coercive hierachies.
[edit] Why the libertarian template is appropraite in this article
Modern libertarianism has been influenced by autarchists like Robert LeFevre. As libertarianism is a big-tent philosophy that accepts both minarchism and anarchism, it is of little doubt that autarchism also falls under this tent. Indeed, despite his oddities, LeFevre was a libertarian.
[edit] Conclusion
It seems to me that both templates are valid for inclusion in this article. If you disagree, I'll be happy to listen to your arguments.
Sincerely,
Allixpeeke (talk) 04:22, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
Adding pictures of the autarchists would expand the article vertically. JoshHeitzman 10:17pm, 26 November 2007 (PST)
- Only if they were on the left-hand side; if they were on the right they'd simply go beneath the templates, exacerbating the problem. And if images were added to the left-hand side, with the templates remaining on the right, the text of the article would be squeezed and constricted so much as to make the article unreadable at low screen resolutions. Either the text of the article is extended, or one of the templates goes. Skomorokh incite 06:25, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
By what delegation of authority do you have the right to issue ultimatums?JoshHeitzman 10:38pm, 26 November 2007 (PST)
- By mine own divine right as an autarchist!!! Just kidding, I wasn't issuing ultimatums, only observations. Skomorokh incite 06:39, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Compulsion or Coercion
Wouldn't it be more appropriate to call a government or state "coercive" instead of "cumpulsive"?
[edit] Autarchism and Rational Anarchy
Is there a widely accepted stance on how Autarchism relates to the label 'Rational Anarchy'? The Rational Anarchy page has been changed to a redirect, but I wonder if it would be appropriate to redirect it here instead. Does anyone know? I will try to find a good source and definition of 'rational anarchy', but this page has an example that sounds close to Autarchism: "The rational anarchist has a strict moral code that he will not break. At the same time, the rational anarchist accepts that those around him may require those rules". That sounds a lot like rejecting compulsory government and upholding individual liberty. --Culix (talk) 06:20, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
- Rational Anarchy is something Heinlein came up with himself, whereas autarchism was a creation of LeFevre. While it is plausible that they had a shared intellectual background, to say that the two philosophies are in some sense equivalent is speculative. For Wikipedia's purpose, any association between autarchism and RA is purely original research, so nothing should be touched unless a reliable source confirms the association. Regards, Skomorokh 12:14, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
