User talk:Austin Hair/Archive II

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[edit] Reply notification

Hi! I've replied at User talk:Matt Crypto. — Matt Crypto 17:58, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Tucson, Arizona and more

Hi. I saw that you voted on the RFC regarding Tucson, Arizona, and I thought you might be interested in commenting on a broader application of the formatting to other city articles. The discussion (for now) is at Talk: Tucson, Arizona#Other Arizona and nearby cities. (It might get moved to WikiProject Cities, if there's interest in doing so.) Thanks! kmccoy (talk) 02:31, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I have put Rastafarianism at Wikipedia:Requested moves as you suggested. --Squiquifox 01:42, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Mediawiki:CopyrightWarning

Do you normally need to scroll past the "Save page" button? Most of the stuff there is just boilerplate that you would normally ignore in the course of editing.

Actually, there's another reason to avoid using Lynx... it can screw up accented letters. One of your edits did that, if I recall. I'll try to look up the link. -- Curps 04:34, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

See your edit: [1], which turned ü to ue, Å to AA, and removed all other diacritical marks. I believe it was Lynx that did that... -- Curps 04:40, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Regarding the use of special characters by various languages, I replied in MediaWiki talk:Copyrightwarning -- Curps 04:40, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I've replied on the same page. A.D.H. (t&m) 05:20, Feb 15, 2005 (UTC)


OK, sorry, I thought you were actually editing the original table.

I guess the main question is, is it indeed a hardship for you while editing using Lynx? I would think that for routine edits you'd rarely need to scroll past the "Save page" button, since anything under there doesn't change from one edit to the next, but please let me know if there's something I'm not aware of.

Also the "seven lines" you mention refer to the total, no? In other words, there were something like 4 lines before and my extra special characters added 3 more lines? -- Curps 05:33, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

It's not a hardship, per se, but more of an annoyance—moreso than the Javascript edit toolbar would be, in fact. I can live with it, but I think it certainly worth consideration. (And yes, that's seven lines total, if I wasn't clear.) A.D.H. (t&m) 06:24, Feb 15, 2005 (UTC)
Apologies for butting in, but wouldn't it be possible to add something like the following to the style sheet for your preferred skin (User:Austin Hair/standard.css or User:Austin Hair/monobook.css or whatever):
#siteNotice, #editpage-copywarn
{
display: none;
}
(I pinched this from User:Eequor/standard.css) This should disable the Copyrightwarning message in the relevant skin. HTH. -- ALoan (Talk) 14:00, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)
You might have a look at Lynx (browser). A.D.H. (t&m) 15:42, Feb 15, 2005 (UTC)
Indeed - I have used Lynx. Not that that page says so, but presumably your point it that Lynx is entirely text-based, and does not need or deal with style sheets? I had assumed that the .css worked on the www/wiki server side rather than at the web browser (for example, I can't see the Copyrightwarning when I check the source for this page as I edit it, but perhaps that is still the browser rendering rather than the html it is served with). Give the .css a go - it would be interesting to see if it worked... -- ALoan (Talk) 23:15, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)
CSS processing is exclusively client-side; it's up to the user agent to request the stylesheet explicitly (which lynx does not) and act on it as it sees fit. You should always see the "hidden" text if you view the page source; you're certainly downloading it. Thanks for the thought, though. A.D.H. (t&m) 23:25, Feb 15, 2005 (UTC)
Hmm - I've checked again and you are right - I didn't see it yesterday, but it is there today (surrounded by an "<div id="editpage-copywarn">", which I presume is how the css magic works). My mistake; apologies for wasting your time :( - ALoan (Talk) 11:17, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Hey, I appreciate the effort—in the end, it's little more than a nuisance which makes saving pages more difficult, but it's a nuisance nonetheless. A.D.H. (t&m) 13:53, Feb 16, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Lobbying

I am not lobbying for Rastafarianism to be changed. That would imply writing messages to individual users I thought might be sympathetic to my cause, urging them to have a say. This I have not done. By opening the issue up to wider debate I am taking the risk that the consensus may not go my way, when I reckon the consensus was marginally in favour of changing the name before I took the article to requested moves. I did so in order to meer your demand for a wider debate, and in the light of your bitter opposition to the name change. Please refrain from making wild accusations, at least against me. --Squiquifox 19:11, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

By "lobbying" I was referring to the fact that you're aggressively campaigning on three different pages, making five edits for every one point made. No negative connotation was implied; I could have easily said "vying" instead. A.D.H. (t&m) 23:31, Feb 15, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Your request for name change

Hi, I noticed the page meta:Changing username is a mess. I am cleaning it out now. Your request is now moved to meta:Changing_username#New_requests_.28PUT_NEW_REQUESTS_HERE.29.

To be proccesed you sould put on the talk page of the account User:Callidus whit that account put a notice about this and link that notice to your request for change of username. Walter 11:06, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)

That's rather redundant, in my case, as I'm requesting the change on meta. A.D.H. (t&m) 16:37, Feb 17, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Rastafari

BTW, I looked around, both at academic publications (theses and dissertations) and at Google and it seems that Rastafari is more widely used than Rastafarianism, with Rastafarians as the people. (see Talk:Rastafarianism#Looking_at_the_data). Thanks Guettarda 01:28, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Google's really no metric, as "Rastafari" refers to the prince as often as not. As for applying the term to the religion, while I've seen its use in the sense "the Rastafari," I've never seen "practicioners of Rastafari," which is the sense that governs the article's title. (And anyway, articles are titled per common usage, not the latest academic vogue.) A.D.H. (t&m) 02:21, Feb 19, 2005 (UTC)

It's a little more than "academic vogue" - the UMI archives go back pretty much forever (in the US) - at least until the 1930s - and the theses relating to Rastas go back to 1979. While Google is not my favourite metric, it supports the "common usage" idea. On the first 30 "Rastafari" hits, only one uses the word for Selassie. As far as common usage goes, most people I have spoken to were unaware that "Rastafari" comes from "Ras Tafari". Web sites and academic work also do use it in the sense of "the practioners of Rastafari"...top hit in Google [2], a page about Bob Marley says: The roots, core beliefs and practices of Rastafari lie close to Bob Marley's music and philosophy. Third hit [3] says:Rastafari is a movement of Black people who know Africa as the birthplace of Mankind and the throne of Emperor Haile Selassie I. This is not an attempt to use the brute force of Google to "prove" anything - all I mean by this is to illustrate that this usage is widespread, and Rastafari is used as the movement/religion...in common usage, in English. Rastafarianism is widespread usage, but both Google and academic usage suggests that Rastafari wins in terms of common usage. Guettarda 02:12, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] PRC, ROC, mainland China, Taiwan, etc.

Hello A.D.H.. Thank you for joining the discussion over the titles of China-related topics articles. Would you mind help explain to the contributors who opposed renaming because they thought the new titles are confusing, that how these terms differ from each other, and how the choice of one of these terms as a title is important. Thanks in advance. — Instantnood 18:11, Feb 19 2005 (UTC)

Hello A.D.H.. The vote and discussion at Wikipedia:Requested moves#Economy of Taiwan → Economy of the Republic of China is getting messy. — Instantnood 12:32 Feb 28 2005 (UTC)

[edit] RfC

Hello there. I am recently being listed on RfC. Feel free to comment as you wish to. I regard it as a way out and to have the matter settled. Thanks. — Instantnood 20:26 Mar 1 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Rastafari page

I have proposed to end the disambiguation page at Rastafari, redirecting it to Rastafarianism, and redirecting Ras Tafari to Haile Selassie. My understanding is that you are in favour of this; if not please let me know at Talk:Rastafari. --SqueakBox 22:07, Mar 1, 2005 (UTC)