Talk:Austro-Hungarian Compromise of 1867

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was move to Austro-Hungarian Compromise of 1867. — TKD::Talk 00:33, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

The current use of the German term over a Hungarian one isn't the most neutral option. Compromise of 1867 is very neutral, and also more descriptive to Anglophones. Encarta, Britannica and Hutchinson encyclopedias all use the term so it is commonly accepted.Rex 16:45, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

• Support. per nom.Rex 08:30, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
• Weakly oppose Google scholar has over twice as many links to Ausgleich and Austria-Hungary as to "Compromise of 1867" and Austria-Hungary. Does EB ot the other encyclopedias have articles under the target, or do they explain Ausgleich as "the compromise of 1867"? I oppose the notion that we should be more politically correct than English=speaking scholarship. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 01:14, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Brittanica uses Comprimis of 1867 as the article name, and explains that in German it's called Ausgleich. (as does Brittanica concise [1]) Encarta uses it too, adding between bars ('Ausgleich'), [2] but not mentioning it again when discussing the compromise.Rex 08:30, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

• Support "Compromise" seems to be used widely enough in English. Check also this Google fight (26k vs 11k) and these two Scholar searches (667 vs 210). Since "Compromise of 1867" is a much more specific term than "Ausgleich", I believe that the above search by Septentrionalis does not produce accurate results regarding this matter. (What about "Compromise in 1867", or "the 1867 Compromise", or an "Ausgleich" between other parties?) KissL 10:12, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment Agree that the title "Austro-Hungarian Compromise of 1867" (proposed below) is even better than just "Compromise of 1867". KissL 10:39, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
• Support per nom and KissL. "Compromise of 1867" is the English name of this event, and that is reason enough to move it. K. Lásztocska 14:52, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
• Support to rename it to Comprimise of 1867, though I think Austro-Hungarian Compromise would be more clear and it is also widely used. --Koppany 19:17, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

• Support the Austro-Hungarian Compromise of 1867 as per above. Zello 23:32, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

• Support - it always wondered me why the title is in German when there is English name. I support move to either Compromise of 1867 or Austro-Hungarian Compromise (of 1867). Alternative names can of course be mentioned, but the title will be clearer with either of these options. MarkBA ^t/c/@ 12:25, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Comment: I would say that Austro-Hungarian Compromise of 1867 is the best option. Clearest, most specific, easily understood to somebody just browsing around...etc. K. Lásztocska 20:38, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

That's true. That title gives immediately some pieces of information - what between who and when, but Ausgleich has no information value for those not knowing German plus I fear it isn't very neutral in this case. Compromise of 1867 has a bit vague meaning, but still better than Ausgleich. MarkBA ^t/c/@ 21:04, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

• Support -The most common name should be used. In this case i feel based on the presented evidence, that is "Compromise of 1867". Hobartimus 16:10, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
• Support per the statistics presented by Kissl. I would prefer Koppany's more specific version in the form proposed by K. Lásztocska ("Austro-Hungarian Compromise of 1867") though. Tankred 19:09, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
• Support per nomination. K. Lásztocska, Tankred and MarkBA version of Austro-Hungarian Compromise of 1867 seems to me to be the most clear and appropiate name. R O ^{A M A T A A} | msg  06:23, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
• Comment support Austro-Hungarian Compromise of 1867 as per above. --Koppany 13:28, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
• Oppose but support Austro-Hungarian Compromise of 1867 as per above. "Ausgleich" is used in English (see also "Anschluss") and is better than the vapid "Compromise of 1867" which conveys no intrinsic meaning. Seriously - how many compromises occurred in 1867 around the world? István 15:03, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
• Support a move to Austro-Hungarian Compromise of 1867 per WP:UE. Although Ausgleich might be used more in scholarly literature dealing specifically with the subject, Austro-Hungarian Compromise of 1867 is more appropriate for general encyclopedic usage. (Not that it matters but the German version requires qualifying as well.) — AjaxSmack 22:15, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Comment: OK, so is this consensus to move the page to Austro-Hungarian Compromise of 1867? I support...K. Lásztocska 17:28, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.