Talk:Australian handball
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It appears that this page has been written off the top of the authour's head. If people out there can find sources that provide some of the information on this topic, this article would be well on the way to FA status. Bensmith53 08:44, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
This is a very good article. I have formatted it to be easire to read. Whoever wrote this is talented. I am going apply for this article to be rated.
talk to symode09's or Spread the love! 04:43, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
--- Some points from me Hectic18 07:14, 21 April 2007 (UTC):
- Ace, King, Queen and Jack is what's stipulated in this article, but having played handball from K-12 with people from many schools in the south west sydney/central sydney region, I've played the square order as King, Queen, Jack and "Duns". Anyone else here who has played with the square known like this?
- If more than one player calls "service" at the same time, the "Ace" may serve to whomever he wishes. The "Ace" always serves at the start of play. - For me, the serve goes to whoever calls first. If not, the ace may serve to whoever.
- drags- known as a 'slog' for me
- I could go on for ages, but esssentially the point I am trying to make is that there are heaps of variations to the game, partly due to the fact that I believe that the rules aren't typically written down, just passed on by word-of-mouth at school. I have also played a variation of handball where "footers", "headers" and "chesties" are allowed lol!!. What do think about these variations and how they can be implemented into this article?
- Yep, at my Primary school we used Dunce... and Sharkey ball is called WarBall in my high school.
- I grew up in the Riverina in the 80's, moving across to the Snowy's in the early 90's - I remember handball well. In both places it was essentially as described here - I suspect every school and every generation / class has it's own house rules though. I also suspect that there has never ever been ANY sort of actual writing or study done on this topic, yet it is a topic that certainly over half of anyone going though the Australian school system in the last 50 years could verify. How can we make sure that a) this doesn't get deleted due to original research and no sources and b) get it through some sort of rigorous Wiki process to eventually get it to FA without sources. Hell - maybe though combined work we could get the game officially recognised somehow. That would be a first for Wikipedia no doubt.Akitora (talk) 11:54, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
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- After being with numerous schools around Australia, I have edited the page, fixing few minor mistakes I saw. I know hope it is accurate for all who reads it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DetectorGuy (talk • contribs) 07:06, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Requested move
- The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the proposal was Move rejected. We don't coin terms. --WoohookittyWoohoo! 07:23, 27 January 2008 (UTC) Change name to Australasian Handball since it is played in Australia and New Zealand. F (talk) 10:47, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
- Interesting motive. However, is there any evidence that this term is actually used? Otherwise, it's original research which is not appropriate. — AjaxSmack 20:08, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose. I understand the reasoning, but the term "Australasian Handball" doesn't appear to be used, nor is it the common name. --Lox (t,c) 13:03, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
- Redirect to Four square. A very similar game to four square and the Australian rules can be found at Four square regional under Australian regional rules, so the rules in this article could be merged with the rules in the four square regional article. The title also seems misleading as I was expecting an Australian Handball organisation. – Axman (☏) 16:51, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose per Lox. --Serge (talk) 03:43, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose - WP describes, doesn't prescribe. You might be right in essence, but the term is non-existent.-- Avg 00:45, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Discussion
I know this game as kingpin. Four-square was a variation of it. The rules I knew in the 60s when I was in primary school (in Australia) were not quite the same as those listed here. Suspect the whole article has a WP:OR problem, and don't want to make it worse. Hmmm... Andrewa (talk) 23:53, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Doesn't appear to be related to Chinese Handball]]
The opening paragraph states that the game is related to Chinese Handball, a variant of American Handball. There is no evidence to support this as far as I can see. Chinese handball has only been around since the 60s and uses a wall. Australian Handball doesn't require a wall and doesn't appear to have anything much in common. Can anyone comment please? Is there a relationship between the two? --Bardcom (talk) 17:50, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
