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The chant looks like Oggy Oggy Oggy -- a spin-off?
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[edit] Please Explain!
The section on Aussie as a cultural moniker reads like a defenseve attack upon a so-called "radical egalitarian movement" and goes on to throw in a comment regarding legal the "fictions of arbitrary citizenship status". The paragraph whiffs of polemic and needs cleaning up. mangonorth
The argument (where it should not be an argument but description of facts) posits that it is not the nationalists that are being exclusive in their use of the word Aussie. This seems to fly in the face of their obvious intentions! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.228.152.208 (talk) 11:41, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] As Chant?
I have removed the lengthy description of the "Aussie" chant, as there is already an independant page on this topic. As the chant is a relatively new phenomenon, (and one that has been politicized under the current wave of nationalism,) it should not dominate a description of a word that has broader, long standing and more inclusive meaning. mangonorth —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.228.152.208 (talk) 11:32, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Usage of 'Aussie' as ethnic descriptor
Article states:
"While attempts by schools, politicians and the media to use the term as an all encompassing label for those with Australian citizenship, it has continued to retain common usage as an ethnic descriptor, especially among youth."
Are these claims regarding common usage and usage among youth verifiable? --Salada 10:46, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
....Salada, it is not verifiable. It is strictly a 'slang' term which is normally used only in informal conversation or communication; for example in speaking with another Australian I might use the words "we Aussies", but any attempt to formalise the word as a substitute for "Australians" as a descriptor of those holding Australian citizenship would be met with derision.Geoffrey Wickham 05:05, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
As a white Australian born and raised in Australia, and only 20 years old, I would say that "Aussie" refers to anyone who identifies themselves as Australian, and accepts and respects "Australian Values" (or "Aussie Values") and way of life. unsigned
[edit] Use of the word "Aussie"
Article states:
"In New Zealand and the United Kingdom the term is sometimes used to refer to the country of Australia, as well as Australian persons. In Australia itself the term is only used to refer to its inhabitants."
Does anyone agree with this? I am an Australian and I have heard a number of people use "Aussie" to refer to the country. Should this un-substantiated claim be removed from the article?
[edit] Perjorative use
I've removed this topic from the category 'Perjorative terms', as the term Aussie is rarely or never used perjoratively itself. Offensive use of the term 'Aussie' comes from its use as an exclusive term, thus labelling others (particularly Australians with an ethnic heritage) as 'not real Aussies'. I haven't found any reference of the term Aussie used perjoratively; please edit this if you find a solid reference. peterl 21:28, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
