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[edit] Sega Aurora

Maybe there should be a link and an article on Sega's upcoming arcade rig, the Aurora? 153.104.16.114 14:37, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

Added link. - Stormwatch 23:50, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Aurora primary topic

The name Aurora, either for the Goddess or any female, is clearly the most prevalent use of the word alone. However, the Latin meaning, and its astronomical derivation, are a major secondary use.

Therefore, a summary style (or multi-stub) page is the primary topic page, while the more specific ancillary references are relegated to the (disambiguation) page — now an example for Wikipedia:Manual of Style (disambiguation pages).

Please don't change the format without reaching consensus.

--William Allen Simpson 20:14, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
Where did you get consensus to move the page from Aurora to Aurora (disambiguation)? —Mike 05:49, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

The current Aurora page is very confusing: It has both disambiguation article links as well as the story behind the goddess. Since the links on the Aurora page are already in Aurora (disambiguation), I've removed all the extra information already mentioned in the disambig page, and left the information about the goddess. There is a link to the disambig page in the Aurora page if readers are wanting other meanings of Aurora. —Stoa 18:17, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm discouraged about the status of Aurora. This was made a Primary Topic as part of the guideline discussion, and used as an example. Yet, later folks don't seem to like having a separate (disambiguation) page, and keep adding stuff to Aurora. The rule is: Wikipedia:Disambiguation#Primary topic "Where there is no such consensus, there is no primary topic page."
Therefore, I moved the page to Aurora (name) (the usual place) having only the information that I'd originally used there, and the details about the Goddess at Aurora (mythology) (as Moverton cut and pasted), and point Aurora here to (disambiguation), which will eventually be swapped at the Project.
--William Allen Simpson 03:13, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
Done, working on disambiguating all links.
--William Allen Simpson 04:03, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup

My substantial cleanup of this page has been reverted out of hand by Bkonrad twice, simply because he objected to one minor aspect of it. Perhaps someone else would like to make the intro read in an encyclopaedic style, remove external links as required by the MOS, change 'Persons' (ugh!) to 'People', change 'See also' to 'Others', and remove the non-notable radio-controlled helicopted or at least just make its section heading comply with the MOS. I'd do it but I'm sure Bkonrad would revert the changes. Worldtraveller 08:45, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

What Worldtraveller considers one minor aspect is hardly minor as it involved the wholesale deletion of multiple place names. Such deletions spread out through the list are difficult and tedious to manually restore, and I honestly do not see such significant changes in the rest of the page to warrant such accusations as Worldtraveller makes. For full disclosure, there was an exchange here that has turned rather acrimonious, for reasons that still rather mystify me. I've no strong preference in how the intro is framed, but I honestly think the current intro [1] (which I'm not claiming credit for) is better than Worldtraveller's suggested revision [2]. As for external links, I don't feel that strongly about the SINGLE external link remaining on the page--personally, I feel it is more helpful for a reader to have an external link than nothing or a bare redlink, but ideally, if the topic is encyclopedic, it probably should have an article. As for the other headings, sure I'll make the changes myself. I still don't see why you are getting in such a petulant huff. If you had made ONLY the changes you suggested above, I would not have objected. Look, I'm sorry if you were offended by my reverting. Stop making such a huge case out of this. It is no big deal. Good grief. older ≠ wiser 11:52, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] bipolar bears

I tend to doubt the aurora of polar bears reference. it's mentioned on the net via google a few times, that all look to be copies of the same thing, but not otherwise. see, for instance, "a group is a pack or sloth (sleuth)" http://senecaparkzoo.org/redirect.php?redirect_title=Polar%20Bear&bookmark= Gzuckier 15:53, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

I already removed it once, but it keeps coming back. I don't believe for a moment that it is correct in the sense that it is used by people who write about polar bears (and expect to be understood) as opposed to people writing poorly researched lists of collective nouns (not least because polar bears are solitary, so there is little need for a collective noun in the first place). However, it might be worthwhile to have an entry like
-- just to deter well-meaning users who just read a did-you-know pseudofactoid in their paper from adding something more authoritative-sounding. Henning Makholm 12:47, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
Unless there is a verifiable source that describes this usage, then no, I don't think it should be mentioned. older ≠ wiser 20:55, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Aurora (College)

Please create a separate article for Aurora (College). This page is a disambiguation listing for Aurora on which the college is listed (at the bottom). Cheers MidgleyDJ 11:54, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Aurora Medical

There's a HUGE Aurora Medical Company in the Midwest USA... I'm a bit surprised it's not in here but a casket company is. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by The Person Who Is Strange (talk • contribs) 2006-11-25T02:43:27 (UTC)

The purpose of a disambiguation page like this is not to list everything called Aurora. It is to provide links to Auroras that one can read more about in Wikipedia. For whatever reason, Wikipedia contains an article about the casket manufacturer but not one about the medical company, and thus it is entirely proper that the disambiguation page links the one that has an article. It may well be that Wikipedia should have an article about the medical company and/or shouldn't have one about the casketmaker, but here is not the right place to discuss that. Henning Makholm 14:57, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Aurora — Network Traffic Analysis and Visualization

I am reverting the deletion by Henning Makholm with the edit summary of "Remove external link disguising as disambiguation" I can find no logic for such a deletion. The following support the existence of the project. (Actually I used a different entry as noted below)

  • http://citeseer.ist.psu.edu/lampert06vermont.html which cites IBM Zurich Research Laboratory, "Aurora - Network Traffic Analysis and Visualization," 2004. [Online]. Available: http://www.zurich.ibm. com/aurora/ as a reference for there paper on Vermont A Versatile Monitoring Toolkit for IPFIX and PSAMP
  • The following found as the first entry in a google search
IBM Zurich Research Laboratory | Systems | AURORA - Network ...The flow-based traffic profiling system developed in the Aurora network traffic analysis and visualization project uses new techniques for collecting, ...
www.zurich.ibm.com/aurora/ -

The revised entry is as follows:

  • Aurora (Network Traffic Analysis and Visualization) a Light-Weight and Scalable Network Profiling System

Dbiel (Talk) 23:39, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

A disambiguation page is a navigation tool that collects link to wikipedia articles with the same or similar titles. The meaning of "Aurora" that you have found does not have a Wikipedia article to link to, and therefore does not belong in a disambiguation page. A disambiguation page is not a web directory; neither is it an indiscrimiate list of uses of a word for cases where we don't have an article that a reader might conceivably want to find by entering the word in the search box. –Henning Makholm 21:12, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
Using that logic, are there not 18 other entries in this article that should be deleted? Dbiel (Talk) 01:38, 12 June 2007 (UTC)