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[edit] Incorrections
introduce discipline and sobriety where before there had been brutality and drunkenness
This line certainly made me smile. Were French kitchens noted for brutal beatings by drunken chefs before Escoffier? The point could surely bear some further development. -- 02 Dec 05.
Rossini died in 1868 and was a friend of Careme. Shouldn't 'Tournedos Rossini go in the Antoine Carême entry? "Let's not forget that the Maestro, a friend of the illustrious chef Marie Antoine Carême, has linked his name to at least five famous dishes: Tournedos Rossini, Cannelloni alla Rossini, Saddle of Veal Rossini, Suprême de Pintade 16 Dec 1993 Rossini, Friand of Chicken Rossini." [1] -Aldo Buzzi in NY Review of Books, 16 Dec 1993. Nice bio nevertheless. Should that 1928 date for the Kaiser's decoration read '1908'?User:Wetman.
- My source for the Tournedos Rossini claim was Escoffier On-Line, and it is repeated without proof in other biographies. Here is a facsimile of the relevant page from Ma Cuisine. Escoffier does not say whether he created the recipe or merely recorded it. It may have been created by Careme and Rossini, although this story is usually described as an "anecdote". I shall put in a note saying that the attribution is uncertain. I am fairly sure that the 1928 date is correct: the award was given long after the "emperor of chefs" meeting. -- Heron
"In about 1920, Escoffier became the first chef to receive the Legion of Honour. In 1928 he received the Rosette of an Officer of the Legion from Kaiser William II." How did the ruler of Germany bestow a French decoration? JHCC 19:06, 22 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Definitely wrong. That is a French honor. I think the confusion comes from quotes like: "The French government recognized Escoffier in 1920 by making him a Chevalier of the Legion d' Honneur, and later an Officer in 1928. The honors due Escoffier can be summed up by a quote from Germany's Kaiser Wilhelm II when he told Escoffier, “I am the Emperor of Germany, but you are the emperor of chefs.” " from [[2]] so I'm correcting that statement in the article.
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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Le Guide.jpg
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[edit] Pic of the old geezer
Lol, just kidding. I was wondering why we don't have an image of Augie. There appears to be some in the German wiki. Is there some reason why we cannot use some of the same images, translating and copying hte rationale and summary over? Or is there an 'internal memo' way of adding the image's use to the English language Wikipedia? - Arcayne (cast a spell) 11:15, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] á la russe vs á la francaise
Who popularised service á la russe, at the expense of á la francaise? Because Wikipedia has articles on both Escoffier and on Carême, which give the credit to both of them. Is that correct; was this change in serving a process, beginning with Carême and finding its fulfillment in Escoffier? Morandir (talk) 05:16, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
- Escoffier did, Careme first saw it when he was the chef to Alexander II, but he scoffed at it saying that it would never catch on in the Western world and as such he never fully adopted it.--Chef Christopher Allen Tanner, CCC (talk) 12:16, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
