Talk:Audubon Quartet

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If you feel tempted to change this article, please be sure to review Wikipedia policies regarding neutral point-of-view (NPOV) and basic editing procedures. It appears that some of the people directly involved in the legal dispute have altered this page to adhere to their personal narrative while ignoring basic formatting and editing standards. There really needs to be section here about the lawsuit, but it needs to be written by a disinterested third party, and not by one of the people who is personally involved. VTDoubleE 18:26, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Again, I politely request that you do not edit this page without at least familiarizing yourself with how Wikipedia works. This is not the appropriate place for snarky commentary and one-sided attacks. I would like to see both sides of the issue presented here, but in order to do that, people need to exercise some self-control. VTDoubleE 17:02, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

I do not believe Wikipedia's policies preclude quoting from an official judgment entered by a court of law, simply because such judgments, by their very nature, are not "neutral." I have no personal interests whatsoever at stake here. I am perfectly comfortable with a reference for the Audubon Quartet, which omits references to the lawsuit altogether. I cannot, however, accept references to the lawsuit which seem to try to sweep the essence of the judgment under the rug.

13 August 2007

Contrary to what has been claimed earlier on this web site, there is no "ongoing" litigation. The parties reached a settlement in early 2006, and the case was finally closed in February 2007. 151.199.118.211 02:15, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
Indeed, they do not preclude you from quoting court opinions, but I think there is a better place to discuss the lawsuit and its findings. What's there right now seems out of place. Secondly, when an appropriate place is found, you need to cite your references appropriately. Otherwise, how does someone know that's what it actually said? I certainly don't want to sweep anything under the rug. I think the lawsuit needs to be discussed here because it is an important and interesting part of the history of the quartet, even if it isn't the nicest story in the whole world. I, for one, would really like to see both sides stories presented in an unbiased, objective fashion. The reason that I asked people directly involved with this issue to refrain from editing this article is because I saw that Mr. Shaw had made some changes. I don't believe he is in a position to write objectively about this topic. I think the same should go for people who have taken one side or the other in this issue.
You are correct that the litigation has ended; please be sure to add a citation for this. VTDoubleE 02:49, 14 August 2007 (UTC)