Talk:Aubrey Beardsley

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I found this on Internet site:

"Although a member of the homosexual clique that included Oscar Wilde and the English aesthetes, Beardsley was basically heterosexual--though perhaps his only female partner had been his adored elder sister, Mabel (who may also have borne his miscarried child)". --> is this incestuous relation true ????

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[edit] Potential Copyright Violation?

The passage quoted in the above unsigned post (and also included in the article itself) appears to have been lifted word-for-word from [1] (which reproduced it, with permission, from a series of books).

I'm unsure as to what to do in cases like these, so I'm leaving a note here for someone else to look at. — g026r 06:22, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

A single sentence from a book? Probably should be cited to the book if you know its title, but it is about as certainly fair use as it's possible to be. - Smerdis of Tlön 12:48, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
The book's name is listed in the above link. I'm not familiar with the standards for fair use, so I suppose I approached this more from an academic/plagarism standard, where copying someone else's exact words without marking that it's from somewhere else is a no-no. — g026r 17:46, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
I went ahead and added the book to the references section. Smerdis of Tlön 19:49, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
More important than this stupid discussion about copyright violation, is to find out if the sentence is true or not!
According to Matthew Sturgis in his biography published in 1998, this allegation comes from a line from the Frank Harris memoir "My Life and Loves". As quoted by Stugis the line is "It's usually a fellow's sister who gives him his first lessons in sex. I know it was Mabel...who first taught me." Depending on how much you trust Frank Harris and how much you read into this line it may or may not be true. [Jeremy Horey 4/9/06]

Beardsley lived in Muriel House in Exeter Road, near the Square in Bournemouth. The house was demolished during the refurbishment of the town centre in the 1980's or 90's but there is a Blue Plaque on the site. I made a start at categorising this but will finish at a more reasonable hour when I am more awake (unless I am beaten to it). Britmax 23:57, 14 November 2006 (UTC)


I am new to Wikipedia, so pardon me if this is not the right place to ask: but anyway, in this article, would it be appropriate to mention popular culture references to Beardsley's work? In particular, I am thinking of the video to STAND INSIDE YOUR LOVE by the Smashing Pumpkins, which was shot in a style influenced by Beardsley's images of "Salome" (The video should be up on YouTube if anyone wanted to see it). -Sara

Sara's question is undated so I don't know if it has been answered. Yes, this is the right place so long as this view is referenced to a source and not the author's own personal reading into. A separate section on cultural references/allusions can be created. Mornington 13:21, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Links

The second link no longer works. Am removing it. Mornington 10:01, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Controversy

"he was the most controversial artist of his age". Any citations? Mornington 23:14, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dramatic Reveal?

"He was generally regarded as asexual—which is hardly surprising, considering his chronic illness and his devotion to his work." ... "Through his entire career, Beardsley had recurrent attacks of the disease that would end it. He suffered frequent lung hemorrhages and was often unable to work or leave his home." ... and, finally ... "Beardsley was active till his death in Menton, France, at the age of 25 on March 16, 1898, of tuberculosis."

The above quotes repeatedly hint at Beardsley's illness, but the final revelation of its nature happens nearly at the end of the article in an almost incidental manner. I'm not quite sure how to fix this without re-writing the article, but the illness should be explicitly named before being indirectly mentioned later. 168.9.120.8 (talk) 16:59, 11 April 2008 (UTC)