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Contents 1 Merge 1.1 References 2 "English"? 3 Photo? 3.1 herbal 3.2 Definition 3.3 Relation?

[edit] Merge

I don't believe that atopy should be merged with atopic dermatitis, since there are alot of other atopic diseases including asthma and rhinitis. I believe that atopy deserves its own article if we can expand and organise it better.PieCam 17:56, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

I do think Atopy should be merged with Atopic dermatitis, because allergic rhinitis etc. are closely related to and can be part of atopic dermatitis, but can occur seperately, while atopic dermatitis is a disease entity, which can show many symptoms, and may include allergic rhinitis, allergic conjunctivitis and others. Speaking of Atopy, the leading German Handbook of dermatology ^[1] is always referring to atopic dermatitis. -- Paunaro 20:15, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

I do not think that atopy should be merged with atopic dermatitis because atopy refers to the genetic predisposition of an individual to mount an allergic response to common environmental allergens. Atopic dermatitis is one possible outcome of this tendancy, and therefore should be a different article. Allergic rhinitis is not a symptom of atopic dermatitis, but is often suffered in conjunction with this condition because of the tendancy of an atopic individual to mount an allergic response. Allergic rhinitis and atopic dermatitis are caused by the same reaction, and can be triggered by the same allergen, but have different symptoms because they are occuring in different parts of the body i.e. allergic rhinitis affects the upper respiratory tract, and Atopic dermatitis affects the skin. Grim Faerie 15:52, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

I do not think it should be merged for the same reason. Bayle Shanks 10:37, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

I do not think that Atopy should be merged with Atopic Dermatitis for the reasons above. Atopic Dermatitis is a specific form of Atopy, while Atopy is a more general condition including other specific forms, such as allergic conjunctivitis, allergic rhinitis and asthma. Yendor 18:35, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

I also agree that these articles should not be merged. Atopic dermatitis and atopic eczema are just particular forms of atopic syndrome that also includes asthma and atopic rhinitis. Therefore, the "Atopy" article should be considered to be the root one for Atopic dermatitis. To be unbiassed the discussions on the aptitude of joining up the four atopic diseases is not yet finished. Although, the general practice is to join them up due to similar causes and the same level of scientific uncertainty on the actual pathophysiological mechanisms.

Atopy and atopic dermatitis refer to two different conditions. Atopy refers to the propensity to generate high titers of immunologlobulin type-E (IgE) and generate Th2-type responses to environmental triggers. Atopic dermatitis, on the other hand, is simply a clinical manifestation of atopy in response to allergen exposure in the skin, just as allergic asthma refers to manifestations of atopy in the lung. Combining atopy and atopic dermatitis may lead to unwarrated confusion.--BrunoRT 20:25, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Looks like most everyone is in agreement about the merge issue. I removed the merge header today. BrunoRT 19:38, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] References

[edit] "English"?

Should 'British English' not just say 'English' as it is American English that is a corruption/variation of the language?GiollaUidir 09:06, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

• Refering to the British or American English debate; an immunology article is not the place to bicker about who 'owns' the English language, either the 60 million British speaking the language in the language's homeland, or the 300 million people who speak it in the US. So I removed the distinctions made in the article, while hopefully maintaining the integrity of the article. MrPMonday 18:09, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps someone could write an introductory paragraph, in plain English, explaining what Atopy *is*, and what it *means*, without resorting to language that's oh so very scientifically correct and all, but impenetrable to the average human being who actually does NOT have a scientific journal-ese background....? (I do have a master's degree, and, well, I DO understand the current entry. But, if my mother came home from the doctor, who'd said "you have atopy" -- and she tried to parse this entry -- she'd probably not be better off than before).

May I remind people that the ability to explain a highly technical topic in clear, plain language, which a fairly bright 12-year-old could reasonably apprehend, is NOT a sign of stupidity or lack of erudition -- it's a sign of brilliance. Einstein wrote a very nice, slim volume called "Relativity", attempting to explain his theory to a WIDE audience, in non-technical terms. Hawking, ditto.

Technical explanations of technical subjects benefit only that narrow audience which already possesses the capacity to grasp them. The value is in EXPANDING one's audience, by being clever enough to write for all.A Doon

[edit] Photo?

I think that a photo of the classic presentation of the atopic syndrome would be helpful. MeredithParmer 21:30, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

I have added a pic from the Eczema page. Best visual example I could find.GiollaUidir 10:49, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] herbal

Is the herbal remedy thing a ad or what? erase it —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.73.197.53 (talk) 04:23, 15 December 2006 (UTC).

[edit] Definition

I am not quite sure how to phrase this, but I feel the article does not really define or describe the condition of atopy except by proxy, as it were, saying that atopy results in eczema or hives or allergic rhinitis. I would like to hear more about what the condition itself is, in its essence. An analogy might be with the autoimmune diseases (and I haven't looked at that article) where we might spend time describing autoimmunity as Sjogrens, and Hashimotos, and scleroderma. To my mind, those are differing manifestations, deserving of their own articles, just as we have an article for eczema, but the underlying condition should ideally be described in its own terms. --Dan (talk) 16:35, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Relation?

I was wondering if "아토피(pronounced a-to(as in toe)-pi (as in p)" is in relationship with atopy. Weatherlover819 (talk)

You should check with a korean physician/allergist of course, but this seems a reasonable supposition to me. Bear in mind that transferring english words into korean is often done more by letter equivalents than by actual pronounciation, so 아 doesn't quite hit the "a" sound in atopy. --Dan (talk) 17:21, 20 May 2008 (UTC)