User talk:Atlant

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I like to keep both sides of my discussions together, so if you leave me a message here, I will reply here.
If I left a question on your talk page, please reply there; I'm watching your page so I will get back to you as soon as possible.
And thanks for writing!

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[edit] Some "talk" is archived

[edit] French

Bonjour Atlant! I've just come across your message (from late 2005 I think) saying that you are learning French. If you need any help or have any questions, please feel free to contact me. I am very familiar with the problems of anglophones and their lexicon in the apprehension of French, that is to say, I can probably tell you how/why something is said in a particular fashion. Hope to hear from you! I am glad to see that you are not taking the Bill O'Reilly approach of hating the French. If you ask me, I think he has an inferiority complex (he has no culture). --Aquarelle 13:36, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

My principal problem is that I'm still somewhat afraid to actually speak French, although last fall I spent some time with a private tutor who helped me a great deal with both pronunciation and grammar. The key for me will be when I finally believe that I have enough of a critical mass of the language to not fall flat on my face as a fool. I'm getting close; among other small victories, I'm registered and have actually made one or two sensible edits in the .fr Wikipedia.
The view from the butte looking towards Centre Georges Pompidou
The view from the butte looking towards Centre Georges Pompidou
I am glad to see that you are not taking the Bill O'Reilly approach of hating the French. If you ask me, I think he has an inferiority complex (he has no culture).
An unfortunately large number of Americans seem to be "ignorant and proud of it", willfully maintaining that ignorance of the fact that there's a whole world out there and things to experience besides what they see on their TV sitcoms each night. Sadly, right now, they seem to hold sway in this country, much to our (and the world's?) long-term detriment. Speaking for myself though, I've enjoyed all of my travels around the world including my three trips to France, and my wife and I would be very happy to go there again; she's been showing me a lot of Internet travel sites in a sort of "nudge-nudge" fashion and I hope to accommodate her soon. This time, she wants to stay down nearer the Seine; last time we stayed up on Montmartre. (One of the photos in the Montmartre article is mine as are all of the photos in the .en version of Canal Saint-Martin.) We'll probably get back to Montreal before that though; it's a little close to New Hampshire than is Paris.
Thank you for writing! I've noticed your name around Wiki, so I'll keep you in mind if I ever get brave enough. ;-)
Atlant 14:49, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Locking LocalTalk

Nice edit on LocalTalk. But are you sure the Apple ones were locking? All the Apple connectors I saw used a miniDIN. While they didn't exactly jump out of sockets, they didn't "lock" either. Maybe it would be better to say the PhoneNET ones offered more resistence? --Steven Fisher 01:45, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

But are you sure the Apple ones were locking?
Pretty sure. The Mini-DIN-3 connector wasn't exactly standard. IIRC, it had a little latching tab that was automatically depressed when you pulled back on the body of the connector. I still have Apple LocalTalk boxes and cables, Farallon PhoneNet boxes, and some Belkin PhoneNet knock-offs; if I can remember, I'll shoot some pictures and add them to the article.
Atlant 12:00, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
Pretty sure is good enough for me! --Steven Fisher 21:44, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] SWfanatic09

You recently blocked SWfanatic09 (talk · contribs) and there's no doubt this block was appropriate. The user is now requesting that he be unblocked. While his reason is dubious, I'm inclined to give him a second chance. Could you please take a look and then either unblock this user directly or let me know whether or not you think it appropriate for me to perform the unblock. Thanks. --Yamla 23:39, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks -- I'll take a look...
Atlant
I unblocked them -- let's hope it's for the good ;-).
Atlant 23:54, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User:Boner boner boner

Thanks for the quick help...I didn't even have to go to WP:AIV for this one. :-D JHMM13 17:56, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome. lately, I've noticed a distinct uptick in the number of "Registered users" who are doing nothing but vandalism and he's just latest example.
Atlant 17:57, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Answering medical questions on the Ref Desk

Er, I'm a bit confused by your response to the question about changing eye colour as a symptom: [1]. You said "On the other hand, it certainly has been known to occur without being associated with any particular morbidity..."; I thought I had indicated that in my response already–Indeed, that was the first part of my answer. In any case, that's not particularly important.

I just thought I'd drop a line to ask you to be careful in how you respond to medical questions. Giving a response which encourages the poster to believe that the symptom is harmless and which doesn't encourage the poster to seek professional medical advice can be risky. Short of actually performing a medical exam, we can't know if this individual's change in eye colour is benign or symptomatic of more serious illness, and it's irresponsible for us to give responses that may provide a false sense of security and a delay in (proper) diagnosis. I hope you'll suitably amend your response. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 15:16, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. It would probably be a good idea to advise the poster to seek professional medical advice, as well. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 15:57, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
You already did ;-). But I think iris color changes are more common than you think. For example, almost all human babies change iris color in the first few years of their life.
Atlant 16:35, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Stalking

You wouldn't mind not stalking me would you? Thanks.--Rotten 15:37, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm not stalking you. But as an administrator here, I'm well within my rights to see that everyone (including you) follows the rules we've set out here. And you, BTW, just broke the Three Revert Rule. But I'll discuss that with you on your user page.
Atlant 15:40, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Editing My Blog

I'm jshephard. I wasn't trying to get my blog promoted, but wanted others to read what I had to say. How do I make my blog valid without being deleted?

You probably can't; Wiki prettty strongly discourages the linking of blogs; sorry.
Atlant 12:54, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re:your block.

You have erroneously banned someone for 24 hours. Please remove your block on Rotten and apologize. Further details can be found at WP:3RR. ~ UBeR 22:43, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

I disagree for the reasons I've stated on Rotten's talk page.
Atlant 23:42, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Misc ref desk

I don't understand your post about Purgatory. --Dweller 12:47, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Go read the Steambath article ;-).
Atlant 12:51, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
That is ridiculous! Incidentally, I'm not sure the Steambath article is wisely named. I assumed it was an article about Steambaths, which is why I didn't understand the comment. What do you think? --Dweller 14:59, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
You're absolutely right about the article name; it should probably be "Steambath (stage show)" or whatever the convention is for the parenthetical disambiguator.
I'm not sure I understand what you think is ridiculous, though. Perhaps you can clarify?
Atlant 15:11, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

The premise of the show. It's hilarious. I'll do a page move and create a stub with disambig. --Dweller 15:13, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!
Atlant 15:15, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Done. How productive. It's a crummy stub, but I have no doubt it'll improve... --Dweller 15:19, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Archive?

You seem to get a lot of anon-vandals. I caught one. :-) Also, you might want to consider archiving this page - it's a bit excessive. --.ιΙ Inhuman14 Ιι.( talk | contrib) 02:33, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the reverts! That particular anon doesn't like the "Homosexual interpretations" section of our Batman article. I have no particular interest in that section one way or the other, but it looks like it was accepted by consensus in that article so I certainly don't allow random anonymous editors to come along and wipe out whole sections that they personlly oppose.
With regard to archiving, it's been my intention for a while to make a new archive, but the browser I use most commonly tends to screw-up on such big edits. But with your prompting, now it's done.
And "Thanks!" again!
Atlant 11:05, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Personal Attack

I am not sure of what prompted you to throw on my talk page an accusation that I would have made a personal attack, but I am redirecting this accusation to you. You cannot gratuitously, like this, accuse people on their talk pages of making personal attacks on such weak grounds. The comment that I made certainly was not an attack and was fully supported by the previous comments made [2] [3].

At the very least, you could have thrown your accusation to the author of this last edit as well for his comments towards the new editor, but your behaviour has targeted me specifically and I do take it personally. Besides, if you would have waited no more than a few minutes before setting me about, you could have followed the discussion further [4] [5] and notice that there was not much to talk about.

I will take for granted that this was only a misunderstanding, but apologies seem in order and would be appreciated. Regards. --Childhood's End 13:53, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

It's no misunderstanding and I stand by my statement. And if you continue commenting in a fashion that violates Wikipedia policy, I will block you for your actions. The choice is yours.
Atlant 13:57, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
You certainly will explain me how is this [6] not a personal attack and how this [7] is. I expect something very clear so that I can act accordingly. --Childhood's End 14:06, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
William M. Connolley's already been warned by someone else -- see [8]. And even if he had not been, that doesn't excuse your bad behaviour; you're still responsible for your actions. So please don't Wikilawyer me; you were wrong, you've been warned, and if you violate the rules again, you'll be blocked.
Atlant 14:33, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
So I'm the one wikilawyering? This is again baseless and is getting insulting. But I'll at least for a few lines enjoy this unfortunate status and explain what, in my opinion, you did wrong.
True enough, the fact that someone else acted badly does not excuse my own behaviour. But this does not mean that you are allowed to ignore the appropriate context when throwing around accusations of "personal attacks" and block threats.
You have just pointed out that William M. Connolley's comment deserved some warning, but it seems that no block threats or personal attack accusations have been issued in this regard, and that you have focused your "remedial actions" on myself. Yet, my comment was made after William's comment and was a legitimate criticism of his. Perhaps, it was uncivil and could have been formulated in a more politically correct fashion, but it was not a personal attack and it was not in violation of WP:AGF as you implied. AGF is not required in front of such comments.
As an administrator on Wikipedia, you can issue blocks and warnings, but you must exercice these privileges with care, and not arbitrarily. Your involvement in Global warming appears to be low, and if you undertake to roam the talk page and issue warnings to some editors, you must do so objectively and in acknowelgement of the context. I was specifically pointed out in your block threat while my edit was a reaction to a previous comment that, as we both see I hope, was clearly deserving of criticism and was quite more uncivil than mine. Of further concern is that it came from an administrator.
Perhaps I should also point you out what the now defunct code of conduct suggested to administrators : Admins should also be aware that warning a user of a block, especially when the user has no prior history of problems, can be perceived as a threat. When dealing with otherwise good contributors, it may be advisable to make suggestions to their behavior without mentioning a block.
I thank you for your consideration and although I would still expect an apology for the "personal attack" accusation and this block threat, which were way over the board, I will only suggest that you weigh carefully your words (and threats) when exercising what you seem to consider your patrolling duties. I would have quietly considered a simple notice telling me that you viewed my edit as "uncivil".
Again, regards.
PS: I've been the victim of much more uncivil comments and have learned to go without complaining. --Childhood's End 15:44, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Any time you feel like you've been treated unfairly, you can always raise your complaint at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents; many folks from the Global Warming controversy routinely do so.
Atlant 15:53, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
No, I avoid these things as much as I can. As I said, I can move on without this procedural bickering as I know that heated discussions are common in the global warming pages and should be considered with a grain of salt. --Childhood's End 15:58, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Worry not, Childhood's End. Your comments haven't come close to attacks and incivility William demonstrated many a time, especially to good-faithed contributors who are new to the article. His behavior has driven away newcomers in droves, unfortunate as that may be. Be aware, however, Atlant is known to arbitrarily block people with whom he disagrees in opinion. ~ UBeR 19:47, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
I've been taking a look at Atlant's recent block and block threats history after our "discussion". I see that between 16:17, 27 April 2007 and 17:21, 27 April 2007, he issued 9 blocks and/or warnings within 21 contributions. Some are obviously legitimate, but I'm a bit puzzled that through all this patrolling activity, he couldnt even issue a warning about [9]. I'm also disappointed by his refusal to merely apologize, either here or on my talk page. Honestly, I do not know what to think right now. --Childhood's End 20:01, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
If you don't like what I'm doing, I've told you how to appeal things and as a lawyer, I'm sure you understand the process. But don't use my talk page as your personal place to kvetch. As I've said, I have no intention of apologizing to you for anything I've done.
Atlant 21:02, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Multiple revisions

Is it possible to revert more than one revision at a time? Or must you be an administrator to do that? Cool BlueLight my Fire! 16:25, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

You can do it, but not via one button. Here's how:
  1. Go to the article's history page
  2. Click on the date of the revision that you want to revert to (reinstate); that version will be displayed
  3. Click "edit"
  4. Save that version
Administrators get a handy button that will "rollback" all the contiguous edits by one editor, but even we have to revert to the described method if there's more than one vandal at work or someone did a partial recovery from some vandalism.
Atlant 16:28, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Huh, part two

Well, yeah. Am I missing something in WP:U? Oh and the username I reported in Huh part one (Klp88) was blocked indef. Spellcast 16:35, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Okay, but what's the translation (from L33T)? And a quick re-reading of WP:U doesn't seem to reveal that L33T is banned; we don't ban foreign-language names in general.
Atlant 16:41, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Talk:Noise-cancelling headphone

(Topic restored to the current page from User talk:Atlant/Archive_6.)

Hi, just wonder if you would reconsider at least some of my reverted amendments on NC headphones - after you've seen my comments on the talk page, of course! Ossipewsk 04:33, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm looking for a usable citation for the "bass overload" disadvantage...
Atlant 12:59, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
Hey there, Atlant. Any luck on this? Because the market for these items is starting to mature, and the information and descriptions we were talking about is getting out of date. Regards, Ossipewsk 01:47, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the reminder; I'd forgotten about this!
Atlant 12:04, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Incandescent light bulb

Thanks for the block of the recent IP vandal. Looking at that IP talk page shows why it is pointless to post warnings, since being repeatedly blocked has not slowed them down. Could you reming me of whether it is a 3RR voiolation for me to revert them multiple times. when the material removed is just the alleged sexual habits of their classmates? I suppose I could claim it was enforcement of WP:BLP and thus not subject to 3RR ;<)Edison 19:41, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

You may revert blatant vandalism any number of times with no fear of being blocked. And I know you've been around here long enough to understand the difference between a content dispute (where WP:3RR definitely applies) and the average school-kid vandalism.
Atlant 22:34, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Block threats

Re your official warning: Stop threatening to block me on Talk:Cow tipping. First of all, blocking me for edit warring when I reverted roughly on an average of a day for a pretty short time and actively edited the talk page while others (including yourself) were edit warring far more is just never going to fly. I'm not edit warring at all. I'm not even reverting anymore, so please knock it off with the block threats in that avenue. In any case, blocking a person that you are reverting when you refuse discussion, instead throwing around acronyms, is an empty threat and you know it, as is blocking me for calling your threats into question, no matter how many acronyms you can pull. I'm tired of getting threatened by you, and I really don't want this to escalate (and it won't do so by any prodding from me), but I guarantee you if it does, it won't go well for you because you have no ground to stand on, especially with your soapboxing about how Wikipedia doesn't allow humor. So please: stop it with the block threats, stop picking fights, and stick to what's relevant about the article. Milto LOL pia 18:06, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Here's what I had to say:
Comment': Please note that I'm still fully prepared to block edit warriors. I'm also more than willing to remind people that "immature and disgraceful" is a violation of WP:CIV, WP:NPA, and WP:AGF; Milto LOL pia, please consider this an official warning to you.
As you'll notice (note the semicolon), the only "warning" directed against you specifically is for incivility, personal attacks, and failing to assume good faith (as evidenced by your use of "immature and disgraceful" in my direction), and I stand by that. If you disagree, you can always take it to the incidents page of the Administrators' Noticeboard. The first sentence, warning about blocking for edit warring, was directed generally at any of the many edit warriors on that page.
Atlant 12:00, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] the uw warnings

Hi Atlant, regarding your note you left on Ryan's talk page about using the old templates. Just to give you some info, we looked into merging/redirecting the old templates into the new system a while ago, but there was far too much support for the old system still and it was decided to let editor choose for themselves whether they wanted to switch over. Maybe one day in the future we'll merge the two systems but for now, whilst editors still prefer the old system we're not forcing any one to change. Any way just thought I'd fill you in. Cheers Khukri 20:20, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!
Atlant 22:29, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Big Ben audio (Analog television)

I'm not going to start a 'revert-the-reverted' game. This Big Ben story doesn't make sense at all, experienced delays have nothing to do with analog or digital. (Nor has 'poor lip-sync', by the way). You can even have a (bigger) delay in analog TV, depending on the route of the signal, the hops, the studios along the way, etc, etc. Ask any broadcast engineer. Still, if you want to keep it online, so be it. Enjoy. Rien Post 23:03, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

nothing to do with analog or digital
Well, it isn't exactly a question of analog or digital, but it is certainly true that there's quite a lot of computation involved in turning a video stream (whether analog or uncompressed digital) into an efficient MPEG digital video stream. Ideally, the compressor is looking across several frames at once and this is part of the delay but the computes are significant as well. At home, we have DirecTV, cable tv, and, of course, ordinary off-the-air broadcast TV. Watching a local station, DirecTV lags several seconds behind "the air" or the cable.
Atlant 23:13, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
Of course there's a lot of computation involved. But that's besides the point. And what you see at home on your local station doesn't mean that the conclusions you draw from that are correct. Do you know how the various stations you're watching (and comparing) are processing their signals and which routes these signals take before they arrive at your place? I don't think so. Furthermore, if it isn't a question of analog or digital, as you admit, then why revert my edit back in the 'analog compared to digital' section? That last paragraph is nonsense. Ask any broadcast engineer (and duck). If DirecTV lags behind then that has probably more to do with their routing. Rien Post 23:37, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
Please also read Pit-yacker's comments on the same subject. Rien Post 21:04, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: 4' 33"

Please see replies to your last comments on my talk page. 59.101.238.34 01:13, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Be specific, please

You reverted a couple of my edits (I believe it's a couple) and neglected to inform me on what offended you. Can you be specific, please? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.215.157.32 (talk • contribs).

I think you're confused. I'm the one who warned you (on your talk page) about your grossly uncivil behavior, but I don't see where I reverted any of your edits (although others certainly did). I also reminded you to sign your talk page postings, but I see you're still not doing that so please consider yourself to have been reminded again.
Atlant 11:11, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

It's not that I'm confused, it's that your unclear. I'll ask again. What words led up to said reverts/warnings that your talking about? I'm just curious. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.215.157.32 (talk • contribs).

Let's take just your latest contribution, here:
--Edited out the "Phosphoric Acid" paranoia.--
More anti-corporate stupidity I suppose. Whoever put that shit in their is a verifiable moron. The paragraph was inserted originally because of, get this, ONE study showed a POSSIBLE link to... blah blah. Before reinserting, please give us more research.
You acused our editors of paranoia, stupidity, being a moron, and writing shit. Each of those violates policy.
Here's your previous talk page posting before that:
--Edited out the damn Eurospelling--
Mostly because this is a DOT ORG American website and partially because any American who uses Eurospelling should be shot in the head and their brains splattered onto the nearest sidewalk.
"Any American who uses Eurospelling should be shot in the head and their brains splattered onto the nearest sidewalk" violates policy as well.
Clear enough now?
The next time you write something like this, you will be blocked.
Atlant 11:20, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
Hey Atlant, I need some help with this user. They have already been warned, and I also posted a warning regarding their anti-"eurospelling" edits on 20 May. They continue to do personal attacks particularly to non-Americans, and general trolling on talk pages. --Bren talk 23:54, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Talk:Lieutenant Dan Taylor [10] Edited out the euro-spelling of "Organizations". Wherever I see eurospelling, I kill it.
  • Talk:Coca-Cola Blāk [11] Edited out socialist eurospelling
  • Nicolás Guillén [12] Guillen's nephew who was electro-tortured by Cuban socialist communists
  • Talk:Sinatra-Jobim Sessions [13] I'd change it 'cept for I don't want to be jocked by the monkeypedians
  • Talk:Glacier [14] THIS ARTICLE IS A PRIME EXAMPLE OF WHY NO ONE TAKES WIKIPEDIA SERIOUSLY ANYMORE Why do wikipedians tolerate random edits that confuse "consensus science" with provable science? Consensus is not science. What's worse is that whoever the genius is that locked the page neglected to correct the disinformation. GodsTeam
The haven't edited (at least as 66.215.157.32) since 08:09, 24 May 2007. But the warning I gave them wasn't time-limited, so if they continue to act up, I'll certainly take some action. Please keep me posted.
Atlant 00:07, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] thanks

My thanks for your removal of vandalism on the analog v digital article some time ago. For some reason the article seems to keep on having these attacks. Enescot 07:01, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome. Unfortunately, all Wiki articles get vandalized, and pretty steadily. And the folks that run Wikipedia don't see this as much of a problem (perhaps because they're not the ones doing the constant, relentless work to clean up the sewage) so this is unlikely to change any time soon. :-(
Atlant 12:13, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Errata

Hi, Re: note#1 on your userpage, have you seen m:GAY? ;) Re: animated images, see my reply at talk:strobe light. That's all :) --Quiddity 17:57, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

 :-) -- Thanks!
Atlant 18:18, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 3RR block

I used a longer block due to this user having been blocked three times before, most recently in April. TimVickers 14:34, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Ahh, okay -- thanks. For my "casual look" I was only looking at the user's talk page; I didn't call up the block page.
Atlant 15:58, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cow Tipping

FYI: there is actually debate springing up again about possible AfD on this article! —Gaff ταλκ 17:51, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks -- I noticed and will doubtless vote against it when it arises. But it sure does illustrate something about people, and I'm not very fond of what it illustrates.
Atlant 22:13, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User:71.235.81.39

Hi, User:71.235.81.39 has been up to his trolling/incivility on New England related talk pages. I started a thread on him at WP:ANI, and was wondering if you could take a look at it. It can be found here WP:ANI#Trolling by User:71.235.81.39.

Thanks, BH (Talk) 19:11, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks; I've taken a small step by renewing my warning from a week ago, but this time on his talk page.
Atlant 12:12, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
For the record, if the user does continue his uncivil trolling, what would the proper course of action be? BH (Talk) 16:03, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
Well, I've now given the user a 31 hour block for this morning's outbursts. And they'll keep getting longer and longer blocks as long as they keep up their bad behavior and folks keep noticing. ;-) But given that they're editing from an IP address, they may just change addresses and we'll need to reset and start over again.
Atlant 16:13, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
The users block expires in a few hours, and I expect him to either 1) come back right away and continue with the activities that led to his block, or 2) Not come back at all. I think the first scenario is more likely, and will notify you if anything happens, and worn him on his page that the blocks will only get longer if he keeps up the same activities. BH (Talk) 19:05, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
I was right, see 1. BH (Talk) 22:17, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WP:CIVIL

I know you like enforcing WP:CIVIL, so I was wondering if you could take a look at this thread on WP:ANI.

Thanks,

BH (T|C) (Go Red Sox!) 06:30, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! I'll take a (longer) look, but it looks like this user already has quite a bit of attention.
Atlant 10:43, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
I mentioned it to you because no admins seem o want to take action, except the last guy to block the user, but he wants to get more input. Here are some diffs on Corticopia if you'd like: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. BH (T|C) (Go Red Sox!) 14:55, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
Corticopia's Blocklog may also be of interest to you. BH (T|C) (Go Red Sox!) 16:41, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] How's it going Atlant?

You still rockin' in the free world? --NEMT 18:15, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Still here occasionally, but keeping busier in the real world.
Atlant 22:28, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
Building many a crystal radio, I take it? --NEMT 04:48, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
The crystals I work with are a bit more complex these days ;-).
Atlant
Do you have a reel to reel player? --NEMT 05:07, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
Several; How ancient and obsolete does that make me?
Atlant 10:50, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your signature

Hi Atlant, I have noticed that your signature appears after a linefeed after your comments (I am referring to the science reference desk). Is there any particular reason? I thought it may be better to put it in the same line, like many of us do? Of course, it is a personal taste and no offense meant :-). -- WikiCheng | Talk 09:48, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

I prefer full block style as it makes it much easier to find my (or anyone elses's) signature, compared to trying to find it in a long line of text. I also find it amusing that my signature style draws so much attention (see my archived talk pages) when theere are so many more-pressing issues to worry about on the Encylcopedia. ;-) By the way, when it's useful to confine my reply to a single-line (as in votes and the like), I do use the more-Wiki-conventional style.
Atlant 12:49, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
I disagree. I don't think it's any easier or aesthetically pleasing. --NEMT 13:34, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hatnotes

Hi,

You added a line to Koh-i-Noor to disambiguation between it and the Czech company. For your info, we have hatnotes for this, which generates a pre-made template rather than dealing with formatting and such the like. WLU 17:26, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! I haven't been editing enough recently to remember the latest incarnations of those templates.
Atlant 18:29, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

I keep the link on my user page 'cause it's handy enough to refer to pretty frequently. WLU 20:46, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Talk:Grommet

Sir, regarding this recent edit to the Grommet talk page: [15]. Normally I would not object to reverting any edit on an encyclopedic page on, but as this is a talk page, not bound POV standards, I was wondering what was your justification? ~ Infrangible 03:08, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Talk pages are not chat rooms, they are places where we can discuss improving the article. The comment of yours that I removed wasn't aimed at improving the article. I've noticed that you add non sequiturs to talk pages quite often; perhaps you need to read WP:TALK for more information about what's appropriate on talk pages.
Atlant 11:18, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Questionable deletes

I suppose we're getting off topic for the ref desk, but if you ever see another AFD that amounts to "I've never heard of this", I'd be interested in helping prevent bogus deletions. Such silly deletions should not stand- if somehow such an AFD is closed as a delete, it should probably be undeleted. I'd probably be termed a "deletionist" by some, but I'm just as interested in saving legit content as I am in removing whatever we cannot use. Friday (talk) 15:53, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, but deletions are an area where I am clearly out of the mainstream (or one might, more accurately say: "the loudstream") of Wikipedian thought. Many Wikipedians use deletions as a weapon, and frankly, it makes me sick. So rather than fight every battle and see AfD after AfD discussion clearly reach "no consensus" and yet still be closed with the deletion of the article/category/what-have-you, I've pretty much just folded my tent. If I do see another really blatant example, though, I'll try to keep you in mind.
Atlant 16:02, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Monsieur Atlant, I do apologize for my last post on this page. After reading more into neutrality, my post as referring to the place as "beautiful" was my point of view. I will make sure to keep things neutral in the future. Thank you for this "learning experience." -AbruCH

No worries! I'm glad of your contributions.
Atlant (talk) 23:40, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Typewriter

Hi, I'm listing that article on FAR because there're some concerns and the article hasn't reviewed for a long period of time. OhanaUnitedTalk page 05:08, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Reference Desk

Just wanted to say thanks for the steam railroad information. I've been to Essex and Steamtown, and they are good. If you like trains enough or if you are ever in southeastern Pennsylvania, you should definitely check out the Strasburg Railroad.Grango242 16:03, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

You're entirely welcome! I've now got grandkids who are old enough to appreciate this sort of thing so we're definitely making plans to take them at least as far as Essex; thanks for the recommendation! Then, maybe they can help us lobby for permission to take them as far as PA ;-).
Atlant 16:46, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vendor Reference Voltage Regulator and Linear Regulator

I tried to add something but you reverted it. I would like to discuss this, because I do not believe it to be "spam" yet you and Oli Filth mark it as such.

I firmly believe that mentioning the number 1 supplier worldwide (I will be happy to provide a reference) with a link is not spam. Voltage regulators are not merely theoretical objects, they exist and are sold on a daily basis. As such, a link to a suppliers webpage is relevant as a reference to what regulators are available at present. It also gives an idea of what parameters are important and what average parameter values might be (by looking at the datasheet). Spam is when a user tries to put something on a page as vandalism or advertisement. Wikipedia is an information source, and providing information about reality is not spam! I wanted to discuss this with you rather than trying to just revert back and forth. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lagrangian (talk • contribs) 18:03, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

It doesn't matter if National is #1 or #37; here at Wikipedia, the linkspam policy clearly discourages the posting of commercial links on a "generic" page like the voltage regulator page. Sometimes, if the list of manufacturers isn't long, it's accepted if all of the relevant players are linked, but there are just too many vendors of VR chips, bricks, etc.
I believe it is entirely reasonable to remove the NatSemi link.
I would also caution you to read about "Three Revert Rule" violations; I haven't looked closely at the edit histories of the various articles, but a casual glance says you're close to violating the rule.
Atlant 00:13, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
I am nowhere near the Three revert rule. I have never reverted one page more than once in a 24hr period. I also find your tone rude and condescending. --Lagrangian 15:39, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
You're right: you only edited NatSemi into the Low dropout regulator twice in twenty four hours (and once more in the previous immediately-previous revisions of the article a few days ago). But that's why I said "close to" rather than immediately blocking you for a violation.
Atlant 18:29, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Success of fire suppression in northern forests

Per your contributions to fire, please comment at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Success of fire suppression in northern forests. Thanks. -- Jreferee t/c 06:10, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia

Hi. I just read your thoughts on trivia and I was wondering if you would be interested in this.

Here is a wikiproject proposal for trivia and a fresh look at trivia policy by the admins. Support the wikiproject proposal. Add your name to the list here: [wiki project proposal for wikitrivia]

Please send this link to other users that you feel would be interested. Thanks Ozmaweezer 14:54, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Question!

Hello Atlant, Could you help me out with something? I need to know more about ACIA's (Asynchronous Communications Interface Adapters)...Would you happen to know about this IC? If so, would you be so kind to give me some info about it?thanks for your kind help in advance! :)

Best Regards, yapster —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yapster (talk • contribs) 17:12, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Do you mean like an 8255? I can speak about the general topic of UARTs and the like but haven't directly progarrmed one for years. (My current project uses a UART that's buried in an 8051 and another one that's simulated entirely in firmware.) In any case, please feel free to ask and I'll certainly answer if I can.
Atlant 23:52, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Footnote problem

I noticed that there's a problem with the footnotes on your user page. The text of your user page references four footnotes, but only three footnotes actually exist. It looks like footnote number 3 is referred to in the text as number 4, and the footnote intended to be number 3 doesn't exist. Normally I just fix any problem I see anywhere on Wikipedia myself, but I don't know how this problem should be fixed. MrRedact 06:44, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Facebook about to be deleted

Heya, as one of the people with a picture on Wikipedia:Facebook, figured you might be interested in knowing that it is up for deletion at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Images of Wikipedians (2nd nomination). - Ta bu shi da yu 02:42, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Classification of admins

Hi Atlant. Please consider adding your admin username to the growing list at Classification of admins. Best! -- Jreferee t/c 23:05, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] hot stick

Nice job fleshing it out! Thanks. —Steve Summit (talk) 15:55, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! We need a picture or two, though; let's both keep our eyes open.
Atlant (talk) 16:30, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
Will do. (I note from your user page you work at Teradyne, which means you may know my friend Arne Buck. Also your mention of '11's, Vaxen, and Alphas sparks fond memories. I've actually got two out of the three upstairs.) —Steve Summit (talk) 05:50, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
(A jog in the aisles excluded), I sit about 100 feet from Arne in the same aisle of cubicles. With regard to PDPs, etc., I gave away all of my DEC systems, Teletypes, etc. the last time I moved. There are days when I still miss them...
Atlant (talk) 12:46, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
Well, well, well. Since we've just been talking about birds on power lines and such, ask Arne about third rails sometime. :-) —Steve Summit (talk) 14:00, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
I will. BTW, he says "Hi!"
Atlant 16:46, 30 November 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Speedy deletion of Parchment paper

A tag has been placed on Parchment paper requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be a blatant copyright infringement. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words.

If the external website belongs to you, and you want to allow Wikipedia to use the text — which means allowing other people to modify it — then you must include on the external site the statement "I, (name), am the author of this article, (article name), and I release its content under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 and later." You might want to look at Wikipedia's policies and guidelines for more details, or ask a question here.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the article (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the article's talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Collectonian (talk) 06:10, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Further explanation requested over at User talk:Collectonian.
Atlant (talk) 20:44, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lynch motor website

Please provide guidance as to what you class as not advertising as having looked at many articles on wikipedia that cover technical products and there history it would seem incredibly difficult for them not to appear to be an advert —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bradbunyard (talk • contribs) 14:44, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

There's no clear "line in the sand", but if it reads like a marketing brochure, then it probably needs to be edited to remain here at Wikipedia. For example, a marketing brochure may make the claim that "Feature X" provides three advantages: "A", "B", and "C". But an encylopaedic article would go farther and point out that advantage "A" only comes at cost A', and B only comes at cost B', and so on. Or it might point out how the amazing development of "Feature X" is, in fact, just an evolutionary development from some previous hundred years worth of steady innovation. The key is to adhere to a neutral point of view.
Atlant (talk) 18:03, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of Captain Trips

I have nominated Captain Trips, an article you created, for deletion. I do not feel that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Captain Trips. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 07:08, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ann Coulter

See Talk:Ann Coulter#Controversy and criticism. I think it would have been far more prudent of you to comment there than to have reverted. John Reaves 21:30, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

I think a non-snarky edit summary by the editor would have been a good idea; the sort of summary they used routinely triggers my "revert" reflex.
Atlant (talk) 23:12, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Canal boat (Ross Barlow)

Hi Atlant, i found an NdFeB permanent magnet electric motor in use on this canal boat, question, is this type of electric motor common (needs its own article) or will it never leave the research stage ? Cheers . Mion (talk) 10:44, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Removing email addresses @ Ref desk - How?

Hi, a couple of questions if you can help. One is, when removing email (or personal stuff like phone numbers) from Ref desk question, is it possible to remove it from the history, or is it okay there where it's out of sight. The other is, when personal stuff appears is it okay for regular eds to delete, or only admins? Any help welcome, thanks (PS I have tried going through all the FAQs of many kinds at help and don't want to clog the desk with something that's likely repetitive) Julia Rossi (talk) 11:47, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

People with powers beyond normal Administrator powers can remove specific versions from the edit history, but it isn't done for something as simple as a redacted E-mail address. The point of removing E-mail addresses is to keep various spam-bots from scouring Wiki for addresses to victimize with Spam and, so far, I don't think the bots bother to reach back into the now-historical versions of a page.
And yes, we encourage any editor to make this change when someone posts their E-mail address -- thanks for asking!
Atlant (talk) 18:14, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks so much for your help. Julia Rossi (talk) 22:10, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] digital's book

Hello, If you have DEC, digital's book of Flip Chip module or PDP-8 or others, could you up load picture of book on Wikimedia for general or common use? I wrote Japanese edition of DEC who distributed text book to user/prospect user for self study and promoted to user to make up their own control system with PDP-series. I believe books were good propelled media for DEC business as well as computer itself with free distribution. I unfortunately disposed or could not find books in my closet. digital's logo with each letter in rectangular is well seen is much welcome.Thank you in advance.--Namazu-tron (talk) 00:52, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I still have quite a few editions of the old handbooks. I'll try to remember to take some photos and upload them. (I also keep meaning to shoot some pictures of the "Laboratory Modules" that I own.)
Atlant (talk) 01:16, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] American wire gauge

Thanks for the comment on the anon user page... I sometimes just make a few quick edits and forget to log in and notice that the anon IP's actually built up a talk page ;-) I like tweaking tables, if you have others to clean up I can have a look when I have time. — Deon Steyn (talk) 12:58, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion Templates

Next time you remove a deletion template and accuse bad-faith, try to check to see if it was added a minute ago. The XfD process isn't instantaneous. Thanks. --Cheeser1 (talk) 19:46, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps you should create the "reason" article ahead of adding the template (although clicking on the template's "red-link" is, admittedly easy). But more to the point, it's not at all clear to me that this user's username is inappropriate under our guidelines; I don't see a place on his user page where he promotes this company or product that you seem concerned about.
Atlant (talk) 19:48, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Try the the lead sentence of his autobiography (or the external links)?? Or maybe you could just read the MfD and discuss it there like everybody else... Also, WP:USER is the userpage policy, not WP:UN, which is the username policy. If you're going to tell me "You're wrong, it doesn't violate policy X" make sure I'm not citing policy Y≠X. I welcome your comments at the MfD, but would again ask you not to assume bad faith or remove deletion templates. --Cheeser1 (talk) 19:57, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
(Adjourned to the MfD page...)
Atlant (talk) 20:07, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Editing your deletion discussion comments

No offense, but in order to have "full disclosure" it is probably advisable to strike out and type new text rather than editing over comments or "votes" that you want to change such as here. Especially where this was referenced in the subsequent comment and taken to be offensive. Your edit made it unclear what User:Cheeser1 was talking about until I checked the edit history. Just my opinion.--Doug.(talk • contribs) 05:16, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Please follow wp:mosdab policy

Please read wp:Mosdab#Red_links before reverting disambiguation pages, such as SCR.   Thanks, Daniel.Cardenas (talk) 16:05, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps you need to read the policy as well?
* Specialist Computer Recruitment, IT recruitment agency, subsidiary of SCC <-- A redlink with a bluelink is OK
* Swiss Council of Religions <-- This article is linked from another place besides the DAB page
* Software Controlled Radio, radio equipment and related accessories that incorporate microcontrollers or are connected to a PC for their control. <-- This article could probably link to Software-defined radio although the match isn't exact.
Shall I go on?
Atlant (talk) 17:54, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
I believe this fall into the category:
There is no need to brainstorm all occurrences of the page title and create red links to articles that are unlikely ever to be written, or likely to be removed as insufficiently notable topics.
"This article is linked from another place besides the DAB page"
How do you determine that? I only see it linked from a user's talk page. Hardly notable.
Daniel.Cardenas (talk) 20:24, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
  1. Click on my redlink for Swiss Council of Religions.
  2. When the editor opens up, click on "What links here".
  3. Notice the link to Kurt Koch.
Atlant (talk)


[edit] Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Celebration logo.gif

Thanks for uploading Image:Celebration logo.gif. However, there is a concern that the rationale you have provided for using this image under "fair use" may be invalid. Please read the instructions at Wikipedia:Non-free content carefully, then go to the image description page and clarify why you think the image qualifies for fair use. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If it is determined that the image does not qualify under fair use, it may be deleted within a couple of days according to our criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thank you.BetacommandBot (talk) 13:48, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Your opinion?

This, http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:64.236.121.129&diff=prev&oldid=196068061 was bad enough. Then Ten mocks me, http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AJzG&diff=196068724&oldid=196032343 This is fair? 64.236.121.129 (talk) 17:54, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Look, I'm trying to be gentle with you and offer constructive advice: look to your own actions first. Was Ten's last comment over the edge? Perhaps. But AJzG's remark was an obvious attempt to use humor in conveying their message. You've got to realize that you've given awfully good cause for folks to react at least jokingly-negative to you. And if you push this to the point where the real Wiki officials get involved, I assure you that you won't like those results that accrue back to you. So edit more carefully and grow a slightly thicker skin and we can all work together to grow the encyclopedia.
Atlant (talk) 23:41, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism

Your user page is being vandalized by User:Mr Niebla Just FYI, be on the lookout.--Torchwood Who? (talk) 04:19, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!
Atlant (talk) 20:04, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Philip H. Farber (2nd nomination)

I have nominated Philip H. Farber for deletion. You previously contributed to an earlier AfD on this article and it was suggested that I notify you of the current AfD. I do not feel that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Philip H. Farber (2nd nomination). Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Cheers, Pigman☿ 06:50, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know!
Atlant (talk) 11:33, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] funny?

[16] -- ∂ (talk) 20:22, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Admins have the distinct pleasure of frequently having their user pages vandalized whenever we block vandals; thanks for fixing it! (At least that was a humorous vandal, although his style definitely failed on his third bit of vandalism.)
Atlant (talk) 13:35, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] I think it's about time you issued me an apology...

...assuming you can muster it. Next time you deserve a trout in the face for questioning someone's intentions, I'll expect you'll take it with dignity instead of making personal attacks. --Cheeser1 (talk) 18:19, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

No thanks. But thanks for making me aware of your second attempt to delete this user's page!
Atlant (talk) 15:38, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, we must insist that you assume good faith while interacting with other editors. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cheeser1 (talk • contribs)

Assumptions only run until proof, one way or the other, is offered. As far as I'm concerned, you've proven your intentions to me. And don't forget to sign your posts.
Atlant (talk) 19:06, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Update on the "flaming drink" question

I just thought I'd tell you (Franamax, StuRat, hydnjo, Atlant) how the flaming drink thing went. Well, mixed results. It's all made, but sometimes it works and some times it does not. What makes it extra odd, is that it works 100% of the time for me, but only about 50% for the girl that has to do it. So far, three shows with an audience and it only lit once. UGHH!!!

What I did: I made a fire place poker out of mostly thin PVC pipe. In the handle is a gas grill starter with wires going inside the pipe. Franamax - You mentioned the handle idea and I had already thought of that, but I didn't want to steer people towards what I was already thinking. I guess it's just a case of great minds thinking alike. ;-)

All of it is painted with "Hammered" spray paint made for outside plastic furniture. Here's a shot of it close up without the flame. http://wonderley.com/shows/2008/FarmersDaughter/Photos/Page01/shots/2008-04-17~069.jpg That's me on the couch. In the sort of V shaped tip is the igniter at the tip and the other wire coming at an angle. My invention sparks 99% of the time.

In the coffee mug is a metal jigger that I raised to the level of the top of the mug with a piece of PVC pipe. That was a mistake. I made the level of the jigger come to the level of the top of the cup so that the most amount of the flame would be visible. It should be raised, but not all the way to the top. I have to pretend to drink from this cup and the jigger (which gets scolding hot) is hard to NOT touch if the jigger is too high.

I scuffed up the inside of the mug and the other side of the jigger to get the glue to stick to it. The fact that the jigger is metal does not appear to have any effect on the spark.

In the jigger was originally only about 1/16 of an inch of "Golden Grain" booze - 95% alcohol. At my house, it ignited every time. But, not for Cheryl. I later thought about it was having it on my kitchen counter. That's higher up so I was holding the poker at more of an angle on the mug rather than straight down. So, we changed the jigger to about an half inch on alcohol. Soon before going on stage with it, she moves some of it on the side of the jigger for even more surface area.

When we do get a flame the poker flames a little as well and she blows it out. That actually looks great. The idea of adding salt is awesome - Thanks Atlant. However, I had no luck dissolving salt in the alcohol. I warmed up some alcohol with having hot water all around it in a thin glass and stirred a lot of salt in it. I then let it settle some and used a syringe with a wide tip to suck up some of the alcohol from the middle thinking I'd get the best alcohol with dissolved salt that I could. It did not appear to make any difference in the color of the flame or the ability to light it. However, we put salt in a sugar bowl. Once lit, putting a pinch of "sugar" in the flaming drink was an awesome effect.

I also tried freezing some of the booze so that the 5% that was not alcohol would be solid and use the 100% alcohol that was left - after it warmed back up and it made no difference. In fact, whatever the 5% that wasn't alcohol, appeared to be unfreezable as well.

Thanks again for all of your ideas. If you want to see more about the show, visit Wonderley.com --Wonderley (talk) 09:48, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your feedback! Just continue to take care so as not to "burn the house down" or harm any of your fine actors!
Atlant (talk) 12:35, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Extremely ...

... may sound like an exaggeration, but when I compare to some of the things displayed at the noticeboards and other places, the admins hanging out at the desks belong to the reasonable extreme. Another reason I hesitate to bring things to ANI's attention. The refdesk lot does a good job, and understands how this service works. It's helpful if the burden is shared among the regs who happen to be sysops (there is quite a number, I think). So, yeah, I think it's extremely reasonable for regulars to use their tools when it improves the desks or protects its readers. ---Sluzzelin talk 16:13, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mr AT

Hope you don't mind but I'm posting here because I was largely ignored the last time I reported him at AN/I. He's now going after the archives. See this revision history. Zain Ebrahim (talk) 09:40, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

It was User:Xcamberx and User:Thiagara. Zain Ebrahim (talk) 09:45, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
And User:OdangoGirl. Zain Ebrahim (talk) 09:54, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hi Atlant

Sorry but I posted this t-call onto the wrong user page earlier and just discovered my dis-location:

Help! -- 71.100.8.192

"Hi Atlant, is it time to block this one[17] refdesk Abe Lincoln -- he's wiped out three of my posts troll warning and in reply to him."(me, 04:28, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Sluzzelin restored the posts (wisely minus the t-box) but don't know if the t's been blocked. S/He's getting abusive. Thanks, Julia Rossi (talk) 09:39, 4 June 2008 (UTC)