Talk:Atlanticism

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This Article still does not fully define what "Atlanticism" is.

There is an alternative use for this word, the belief in an ancient and hugely advanced human civilization that was destroyed. (Danekenism, after Erich von Däniken, is similar but considers the civilization of extra-terrestrial origin.) Atlanticism in this sense was coined by Ashworth, C.E., 1980. Flying Saucers, Spoon-Bending and Atlantis: A Structural Analysis of New Mythologies. Sociological Review, 28(2):353-76. The term Atlanticism in this meaning has been used lately by e.g. Walliss, John, & Spencer, Wayne, 2003. The Lost Aisle: Selling Atlantis in the "Spiritual Supermarket". Journal of Religion and Popular Culture, Vol. 3.

The word Atlanticist is also used of a person who believes in or promotes Atlanticism in this sence, such as author Graham Hancock.

Incidentally, the term Atlantis could also be split in two, one for Plato's tale of Atlantis, one for the modern myth of Atlantis as it appears in this form of Atlanticism (the belief in a hugely advanced civilization, the origin of other civilizations, that was lost).

Furthermore, in the text that exists, the phrase "Germany had invaded many Eastern European countries in World War II - French and British security guarantees to these countries were quietly forgotten." sounds like history revisionism to me.

In that case we need 2 articles Atlanticism (politics) and Atlanticism (mythology), turning this into a disambiguation page 9which would be great), --SqueakBox 15:14, May 14, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] 2003 crisis and beyond

This particular part is not sourced and seems to imply that atlanticism means that European countries always have to agree or cannot criticize the US. I think that constitutes OR, and several sources can be found that claim the opposite: Atlanticism often includes the defense of the mutual values and interests which may imply that mutual criticism and discussion is necessary. Also, this particular part seems to overemphasize the current transatlantic issues, while atlanticism is more than 50+ years old... Sijo Ripa 13:57, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Breakdown cooperation NATO-EU

While I don't dispute that relations between the two organisations are not always like they should be, I disagree with the word "complete breakdown". The source used doesn't explain in any way how there is a complete breakdown. Sijo Ripa 13:36, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Fair enough. Can we balance the stmt with a second source, and change the text without saying the opposite of the first source? -- Iterator12n Talk 16:09, 14 October 2007 (UTC)