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Contents 1 Welcome, Athmaiyer! 2 Editing Wikipedia 3 Sholiyar article 4 Bhagavannama Bodhendra 5 Bhagavannama Bodhendra Saraswathi 6 Bodhendral 7 Paadal petra stalam 8 Copyright status of Bhagavannama Bodhendra Saraswathi 9 Notability of Nambiyar 10 Speedy deletion of Sholiyarkal 11 AfD nomination of Sholiyar 12 Proposed deletion of Sholiyarkal 13 Speedy deletion of Sholiyarkal 14 Duplicate articles 15 Speedy deletion of Choliyal 16 Speedy deletion of Sholiyar 17 Proposed deletion of Choliyal 18 Hi 19 Proposed deletion of Tirupperunturai 20 Speedy deletion of Nambimaar 21 Proposed deletion of Munnoothioruvar

Welcome, Athmaiyer!

[edit] Editing Wikipedia

Regarding the addition of copyrighted material to Adi Shankara from http://www.kamakoti.org/peeth/aboutpeetham.html (this seems like deja vu all over again......):

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. We appreciate your contributions, but for legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted.

Feel free to re-submit a new version of the article. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words.

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You might want to look at Wikipedia's policies and guidelines for more details, or ask a question here. You can also leave a message on my talk page. ॐ Priyanath 22:21, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

== Removing Choiza Vellalar Hi, Its inappropriate to remove the Chozia Vellalar info from the Sholiar article, Chozia Vellalar are also Sholiyars, If you want to keep only the info about Sholia Anthanars you can create a seperate article with that title. So Discuss before removing the same. Regards --Anand Ramkumar.S (talk) 07:00, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sholiyar article

Hello friend, and welcome to Wikipedia. Since Wikipedia articles are a cooperative effort, a tag like the one I put on the Sholiyar article alerts other editors that there is an article that they might be interested in contributing to. I could see that the article needed serious editing - for language, spelling, content, and grammar. Since I'm not familiar with the subject, the tag was simply a way of putting out a call for other editors. Another editor has already begun cleaning up part of the article, so you can see a good example of the tag producing good results.

I did remove a section that was a clear Copyright Violation. Please, read this page carefully: WP:COPYVIO. When there is a violation of another person's copyrights - either with a photo, or text, taken from a website or other source - that is a copyright infringement. Wikipedia policy is that obvious copyright violations should be removed immediately. You've been adding text copied from other websites for other articles. Those sections have been removed. You shouldn't do that - when you do, it will be removed again. As tempting and as easy it is to just copy and paste from other websites, that's not how Wikipedia articles are written.

From the page WP:COPYVIO:

"Never use materials that infringe the copyrights of others. This could create legal liabilities and seriously hurt the project. If in doubt, write it yourself.

"Note that copyright law governs the creative expression of ideas, not the ideas or information themselves. Therefore, it is legal to read an encyclopedia article or other work, reformulate the concepts in your own words, and submit it to Wikipedia. However, it would still be unethical (but not illegal) to do so without citing the original as a reference. See plagiarism and fair use for discussions of how much reformulation is necessary in a general context."

When you add comments on other users talk pages, always make sure you are logged in under your username, and then sign your comment with the four tildes. See: WP:SIG.

Also, please read all the links given at the top of this page, starting with The five pillars of Wikipedia You'll find that there's alot of helpful information about editing Wikipedia and discussing with other editors. Cheers, and good luck with editing on Wikipedia. ॐ Priyanath 19:25, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bhagavannama Bodhendra

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[edit] Bhagavannama Bodhendra Saraswathi

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[edit] Bodhendral

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[edit] Paadal petra stalam

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[edit] Copyright status of Bhagavannama Bodhendra Saraswathi

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[edit] Notability of Nambiyar

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[edit] Speedy deletion of Sholiyarkal

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• See Talk:Sholiyarkal. It seems sensible to a Hindu Indian; but many of the Hindu words in it need to be explained. For example, in "They Broadly divided into Choliya Iyers, Choliya Iyengars and Choliya Vellalars.", what is a Iyer? Best explain, so people do not confuse it with the English word "liar". Anthony Appleyard (talk) 16:29, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of Sholiyar

I have nominated Sholiyar, an article you created, for deletion. I do not feel that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sholiyar. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? Ravichandar_{My coffee shop} 16:36, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed deletion of Sholiyarkal

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[edit] Speedy deletion of Sholiyarkal

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[edit] Duplicate articles

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[edit] Speedy deletion of Choliyal

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[edit] Speedy deletion of Sholiyar

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[edit] Proposed deletion of Choliyal

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[edit] Hi

Hi, I observed that you've recreated the Sholiyar page. Let me tell you one thing - regardless of who you are, Vyaghradhataki or Athma Iyer, Wikipedia is not the place to publicize your community or indulge in promotion of the community you belong to. Please add reliable references from books and published material, if possible, from links on the internet. And then, you are welcome to contribute if you are desirous of contributing useful worthwhile pieces of information. Well, it is true that the Sholiyars form an insignificant minority in Tamil Nadu. But that is not reason enough to indulge in promotion of your community. Wikipedia is not a memorial. If you want to bring the plight of Sholiyars to public notice, I advice you to create a website on the net for that purpose. Kindly have a look at what Wikipedia is not. Thanks-Ravichandar_{My coffee shop} 01:31, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed deletion of Tirupperunturai

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[edit] Speedy deletion of Nambimaar

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[edit] Proposed deletion of Munnoothioruvar

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