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[edit] Background Info Requests

Am I wrong to believe that broadcasting in Moydrum, Athlone started several years before the stated 1931?

I have an account (just that an account) that the concrete piles that do (verified) exist there was for a BBC Service to the American colonies. Civil War and Independence put short shrift to that.


Is there anybody out there?

Hi Athlone fans. I have a context question: What are the 'visible ruins' mentioned in the Athlone page?

>Probably the town wall , they are visible and preserved. Walk to St. Francis Terrace. Also try the Civic Centre.<

Why is the castle called 'Adamson's Castle'; I don't mention it in my editing of the page, because I know nothing of the history or who Adamson may have been.

Named for Brigadier George Adamson of the National Army, shot dead in Athlone on 25th April 1922. Check the article April_1922_in_the_United_Kingdom Sean O'Casaidhe 14:37, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

The page is mirrored at least 18 times on the web, demonstrating how starved for Athlone history we are. So, any chance of a real scholar of history plonking some good information in here. Us amateurs can only do so much.

[edit] Athlone Town Centre Development

This entire section was removed for being a copyright violation from [1]. howcheng {chat} 01:05, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Won't be missed:)

The section currently labeled for clean up seems to be very specific to the current real estate market, has many obscure undefined references, and should be eliminated. I don't see that the content is particularlly valuable information unless you are buying or selling a house.

I agree and have deleted it. --Gazzetta 10:24, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Format glich

The large blank space looked strange; I moved the photo of the Abbey to the middle of the history block and the text now fills up to the top of the History section. A few literature citations would not go amiss in here. Also, It would be nice to have some confirmed history of the Abbey in there (photo is fine, but not referenced in the text; OK, I admit I added the photo, but I was hoping somone would plop in some Abbey history)

[edit] Strange Weather

While the climate statistics have been correctly taken from the 'Yahoo Weather' site they cannot possibly be correct! (Sarah777 22:41, 13 November 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Weather

For a more accurate picture check met eireann (The National Meteorological Service) at www.met.ie Mullingar is the nearest place there are figures for and it is completly different to the info on the page.

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Oh, Since when is Kilbeggan further away than Mullingar? 15 miles closer by my mileometer. The weather station is there on the roadside. Stop posting crap.

  • Maybe so, there is one on the west side of Athlone also. This doesn't change the fact that the closest figures published on the website are for Mullingar and Birr.

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[edit] population

Figures for population are higher if the total rural populations are included bring the rural population to over 30,000 as per census information 2006. Figures look skewed as actual town boundary is tiny proportionate to the size of the area the town has expanded into.

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Athlone has a population of 48,566 according to the Introduction? More like 17,500-18,000 (including contiguous rural district) surely? Gratedparmesan 12:29, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Yes - I didn't put in that crazy figure of 48,566 - it's closer to 17 or 18,000 (officially) including the 2 nearest rural districts as you said, but people keep changing it so I'm not bothering anymore.

P there is definitely around 48566 people here. especially outside of the urban area(the town in itself). Coosan and Monksland are full of people and they are all in the Athlone area. not to mention Kiltoom Anto 21:48, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removed offensive post

removed one post from above which was unduly offensive. An honest inquiry is not disgusting ignorance.

Sean O'Casaidhe 12:10, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Translation of Ath Luain =

Also removed an incorrect translation of "Ath Luain" or alternatively, "The Ford of the Moon"

I'm no Irish scholar but IIRC, moon was always translated as "An Luain"? Bastun 17:15, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Nobody knows, but Luain could have a lunar connotation. Not much of a scholar that shoots the theory down with zero proof.

Seaneendubh replies; "Moon" in Gaelic is "An Lunasa", very different from Luain both in spelling and pronounciation. One shouldn't propose a theory with zero proof. Try that in a peer-review and get laughed out of existence. But this is Wikipedia so anything goes? Sean O'Casaidhe 08:29, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Athá means 'Ford' or 'Crossing Point'. and Luain was supposedly the name of the founder of the town (Luain's Inn, now Seans Bar) but local historians now suggest that Luain means moon. It was the first thing they taught us in primary school, the name of Athlone. Let only people from Athlone edit this page as no one elses has a clue! as the locasl say 'state of dis like!' Anto 21:48, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Anto, what local historians? Info PLEASE! If there's a change in ideas I'd love to read up on it! BTW, pls don't use blasphemy on Wikipedia - I don't care, but there's no need to offend others more devout than us. Sean O'Casaidhe 10:44, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mooted idea

The piece begining "the idea was mooted..." did at one point refer to a passage describing an historic plan to make Athlone the capital of Ireland. The passage was deleted at some point and the remaining piece makes no sense as written. I dont know if the deletion was part of the serial editing war that waged here for a while, but it might be worth resurrecting, or rewriting the remaining piece. Any thoughts?Dmccabe 04:10, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

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Included by another contributor Sean O'Casaidhe 10:46, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Midlands Aiport

I took out an article that was injected at the top of the page referring to the idea of a midlands airport near Horseleap and listing a shedload of local VIPs. This article is also present in the entry for Horseleap.

I removed it from the Horseleap article per WP:CRYSTAL. Bastun 17:17, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Edits

Don't have much problem with them. If only our elected officials were so responsive :-)

[edit] Midlands gateway map

I think this is more suited to the Midlands Gateway page than the Athlone page? I don't think duplication is necessary. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 1-555-confide (talk • contribs) 19:04, 26 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Athlone in Cape Town, South Africa

Does anyone know how the name of Athlone came to be applied to an area in Cape Town, South Africa (during the apartheid years)? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Londondee (talk • contribs) 09:35, 30 March 2007 (UTC).

Named for Alexander Cambridge, 1st Earl of Athlone wo was the Gov. General of the Union of South Africa at the time.Dmccabe 04:16, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tag removed

Removed Unreferenced tag, simply because the article is in commendable shape in terms of being easily verifiable elsewhere on Wikipedia through links. Nothing that a few fact tags would not mend, if such be the case that it is in need of more references. C.J. 19:27, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Current Issues section - be careful of O.R.!

I had to remove this contribution because it is original research.

"Also the algae levels in the Shannon and Lough Ree is atrocious and is a huge problem."

Yes, there is a place for this in the article, but you have to follow Wikipedia rules. Have a look at this page if you're not sure what O.R. is: Wikipedia:No original research

The other contributions in this paragraph are also O.R.

"The proposed abstraction of water from Lough Ree could lead to an ecological, environmental and economic disaster. There is little by way of forethought on this issue."

It expresses an opinion, without any references or data to back it up. And to say that there is little forethought is of course subjective. If you can find a quote of somebody saying this, then you can reference that, but otherwise it's O.R. and will have to be removed. Have a look for online articles on the subject and quote or reference them; I'll leave it up for the moment, but if it isn't brought into line soon it'll have to be removed. Sorry :-)Warchef 09:13, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

The "Current Issues" section has now been removed. If anyone wants to re-instate the issues raised with references and presented in an objective fashion, please feel free to do soWarchef 21:50, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

I posted that and it is a real issue!!!! the water is atrocious here and awareness needs to be raised!! as well as that, arses in dublin are trying to steal our water from the lake!! allow that to be reposted!!! you have no idea how bad it is, you have never seen it up close, yu have never even been on Lough Ree or in Athlone. Anto 21:51, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Firstly, I live on the shore of Lough Ree in Athlone, so I do know that it is a real issue - however, that's not the point- the point is that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a blog, so when you contribute something, you have to back it up with references to newspaper reports, other websites, reference books, etc. and it has to neutral and verifiable. I fully support the issue being raised an addressed in the article, but then you have to structure it properly, with references and quotes. I suggest you check the westmeath independent and athlone voice websites for articles on the issue which you can reference- or maybe waterways ireland have some literature on the subject. If you're still unsure as to why the contribution doesn't fit Wikipedia policy, then have a read through these pages, they should be helpful for you to write your contribution in a way that means they won't be deleted for being against policy: Wikipedia:Verifiability, Wikipedia:No original research, Wikipedia:Neutral point of view. good luck! peace. Warchef 14:22, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
I have to agree, Anto, you just need to rephrase what you want to say and include lots of references to newspapers etc (Surely the Westmeath Indo has a lot to say on the subject??) Sean O'Casaidhe 10:44, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Neutrality

Jeanne dArc, could you please state why you think the neutrality of this article is in question so improvements can be made..... Fossiliferous 16:45, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Why is this "neutrality" being disputed? I don't see the grounds??? Sean O'Casaidhe 10:36, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Removed "neutrality" tag and replaced with "Wikify" - the article needs some editing, cleaning up. (Sarah777 01:31, 3 November 2007 (UTC))
Example of problems: Too many 'external links'; not enough references. Too much "See also". (Sarah777 01:35, 3 November 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Twin City

What school goes to Menden?Anto (talk) 16:42, 12 April 2008 (UTC)