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1 Merge
2 Notability
3 Spelling
4 Pictures?
5 Neighborhoods
6 Requested move
- 6.1 Survey
- 6.2 Discussion
7 Music of Athens
8 City/County Consolidation

[edit] Merge

I'm not sure, but should the demographic data from Athens-Clarke County (balance), Georgia be merged into this article. I know that Athens and Clarke Co have merged government, so I suppose the above article is the gazeteer-dumped article, but I'm not certain. Anyone know the answer? Sayeth 21:04, Oct 19, 2004 (UTC)

I went ahead and merged the two articles, but now I am concerned that the lengthy history section is at least partially copyvio from this website:[1]. Sayeth 16:06, Oct 20, 2004 (UTC)

It should be merged. In fact the article needs to be updated and retitled. There is no city of Athens, technically. There is the Athens-Clarke County unified government. The government is commonly referred to as the A-C-C. It is also why the census does not collect data on just Athens, but Athens-Clarke County. For those who are not from Georgia... Georgia has really tiny counties by land area. Smaller then any other state actually and Clarke county is also one of the smaller counties in Georgia, so that is why there is this unique situation where it became Athens-Clarke County rather than a growing city eventually annexing most of the county. Cwkimbro 17:29, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Notability

Hi there. With apologies to Modern Skirts (who are all nice guys), and Ruben Kincaid (who I'm sure are great), I do not think either band belongs on a short list of notable Athens bands. Maybe in a few years...but I'm pretty sure they'll be in line behind Pylon, Neutral Milk Hotel, Olivia Tremor Control, Elf Power, etc, etc. Maybe a better place would be Music_of_Athens,_Georgia? Or perhaps we could start a category of Athens bands? I'm open to discussion... IanRickert 17:38, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Some ~1.5 years later, I think Modern Skirts has grown enough in popularity to be re-mentioned in the notable Athens bands. Just a personal opinion based on my experience of a rise in their popularity outside of Athens. Open to discussion. Caseodilla 07:37, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Spelling

Hi all. I corrected the spelling of musician Vic Chesnutt from Vic "Chestnut." It should now link correctly to the entry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.254.232.125 (talk) 02:10, 28 January 2006

[edit] Pictures?

How about some nice pictures of downtown Athens during the afternoon along Broad Street or something to that effect. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.215.228.217 (talk) 20:47, 14 September 2006

Photographs of downtown have been added. Perhaps of other neighborhoods later such as Normaltown, Five Points, and out Baxter Avenue and out Prince as well as the University of Georgia campus. Perhaps also some notable buildings? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.144.163.141 (talk) 03:30, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Neighborhoods

Would an editor who knows the City please take a look at the additions to the list of neighborhoods. They are all copied from this website. (I have already removed slabs of copyvio text.) As far as I can see they are names of groups of rental properties rather than significant districts. In any case, the content of the articles added is all copyvio as a lift from the same website. I am not in a position to make a determination as to the notability of the additions and should welcome an informed view. Thanks. TerriersFan 00:11, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Pending any other consensus on here I have now removed the long list of red links. TerriersFan 20:46, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Athens, Georgia → Athens-Clarke County, Georgia — As of 1991 Athens, GA does not exist officially, but it became a unified government called the Athens-Clarke County government. To the U.S. Census Bureau and the state of Georgia Clarke County and Athens-Clarke County exist, but not just Athens. Georgia has small counties in land area size and Clarke county is one of the smallest in Georgia, so rather than the previous city annexing most of the county there was a unique situation where the city and county government merged and became one. The page for Athens-Clarke County, Georgia has been created before, but it currently just a redirect page. —Cwkimbro 18:02, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Survey

Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.

Oppose. 1) WP naming conventions favor most common over official names of things, eg the City and County of San Francisco is at San Francisco, California, 2) According to the lead para of the articles, while the governments of the two entities may have merged, the geographic boundaries of the two aren't identical. 3) Consistency with Augusta, Georgia/Richmond County, Georgia, Columbus, Georgia/Muscogee County, Georgia, et al. Best to leave them both where they are: Clarke County, Georgia and Athens, Georgia. Sohelpme 02:47, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Oppose. There is still a place in Georgia called Athens. While that name no longer has any legal meaning, it is still the name used by residents, travelers, the local newspaper, etc. "Athens-Clarke County" is the legal entity, but "Athens" is the name everyone uses. If this were an article about the unified government, then Athens-Clarke would be appropriate, but as this article deals with cultural and other issues, Athens is the correct usage. Clarke County has its own article (which is similar to articles on other counties) and that article should stand as well. --SuperNova |T|C| 20:33, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Oppose for reasons given, and on historical grounds. It doesn't make much sense for the articles on Howell Cobb or Crawford Long, both antebellum Athens residents, to link to an article on the consolidated Athens-Clarke County municipality. -- Rob C (Alarob) 17:09, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion

Any additional comments:

Shouldn't this be split up instead? Isn't there still a place called Athens by its inhabitants? The county, however, should be named as suggested. E.G. 05:42, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

It was requested that this article be renamed but there was no consensus for it be moved. --Stemonitis 20:09, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Music of Athens

With an existing Music of Athens GA page, the information on this page could be merged into the Culture section, and the long list of bands removed. Discuss. MarkinBoston 17:08, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Please do, its getting out of hand (the list, that is) --Mjrmtg 02:08, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] City/County Consolidation

I think it was in 1981 not 1991. I lived there in 81 and I remember it happening. 207.59.211.146 (talk) 21:25, 29 February 2008 (UTC)