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Contents 1 Style of Leader 2 Aton and Athena 3 Grammar and sources 4 Organizing 5 Criticism

[edit] Style of Leader

On this page, "Style_(manner_of_address)#In_religion", there is an entry for,

*The Most Reverend (abbreviation The Most Rev., oral address Father) — The Leader of "The People of the Aten"

Does this have anything to do with the Aten page? There is no reference to an extant People or their Leader.--Oxonian2006 03:43, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Aton and Athena

Is there a relation (etymological or else) between god Aton and goddess Athena?

--IonnKorr 20:31, 30 October 2005 (UTC) I do not believe so. mikey 04:53, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Grammar and sources

This article makes some pretty wild claims, in bad English. This needs to be fixed. --OneTopJob6 15:30, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Organizing

I've done some preliminary reorganizing of the article, separating the Moses theory into its own section and for the time being removing the Adonis and Adonai links since neither of these articles reference the Aten in any way, and the relationship is only specific to this theory, not general knowledge of Aten.

I might add that the Moses entry is in definite need of better citations and writing. It uses unnecessary contractions and has no sources whatsoever. My guess is the author of the previous post who liked the Moses theory, decided to include it by simply throwing in a quickly written summary of it, which is negligible. I would call on someone better acquainted with the authors and concepts of the Moses books than myself to edit this section.

The titles of the Aten are also pitifully organized and written and especially need citations for those specific translations, as more than one author gives an alternate English meaning of the inscriptions.

The Aten's spherical likeness being more readily apparent in personal views of the stelae is a subjective opinion only, and I would advocate removing it if others agree. The Hugh Nibley reference is more preferable, although perhaps a citation would be helpful too. AtenRa 19:08, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Criticism

The general statement that "traditional beliefs don't 'gel' with history", though common believed, is far from being a neutral statement. The entire paragraph in which it is contained is written in non-encyclopaedic language and the citation of another opinion as the major support of the statement rather than a proven fact (about Solomon, for instance, which automatically writes off the entire Kebra Nagast) about three Biblical characters throws the whole thing into question.

200.108.27.63 13:24, 18 December 2006 (UTC)