Talk:Aswan Dam
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What if the dam were destroyed/failed
What about the geopolitical/geostrategic implications of the dam? If the dam were destroyed (for example by an Israeli nuclear strike), the resulting flood would effectively destroy Egypt completely. It has been suggested that this realization was the main reason for the peace treaty between Egypt and Israel. GCarty, 18 Nov 2003 09:52 UTC
- This is a good point, one I've heard before. If someone can turn up a source for it, they should include it. Nicolasdz 01:37, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
From the article: his means that if the dam were to be destroyed, the resulting flood would effectively destroy Egypt completely. It has been rumoured that during the Yom Kippur War the dam – heavily defended by flak – was paint-bombed by Israeli Air Force aircraft, and it has been further suggested that this was a major factor in Anwar Sadat's decision to make peace with Israel at Camp David.
Is there really any proof of this? I have never heard any such information, ever, and would consider this for deletion. I'll give it some time, in case someone should decide to gather references about this. --S.M. 02:34, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
- I'm pretty sure it's an urban legend. Where are the photos? Maybe the reference could be changed to Avigdor Lieberman, who (apparently) thinks it'd be a good idea to bomb it. –Hajor 03:03, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
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- I've decided to remove it. Anyone who can come up with an acceptable amount of unbiased proof may replace it. --S.M. 22:47, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Useful Aswan High Dam picture
I retrieved this picture from NASA's 'Earth from Space' website. It definitely should be used in the article, but I don't have the time right now to find a nice place, so I'm parking it here for anyone to insert. — mark ✎ 20:55, 9 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- Thanks for inserting it, Sluj! — mark ✎ 00:21, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- Utterly breathtaking photo. Kudos to you for finding it. Sluj
[edit] References
This article is overall well-written and informative, but lacks references. Does anyone know where exactly the information comes from? — mark ✎ 00:14, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)
[edit] not really _that_ useful high dam pictures...
i, on the other hand, have two pics that are quite loosely related to the high dam... i.e. they depict the lotus flower tower (soviet-egyptian friendship monument) itself... i'm not sure they fit this article, nor i am truly convinced that there should be a separate article concerning the tower... i seek advice... regards, Blueshade 18:11, 21 Jan 2005 (UTC)
and here are the pics...
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ps: the second one is, imho, nice since it contains some text in russian and arabic commemorating the completion of the dam...
- ok... since, noone answered my question, i decided to just put the images in the article and see how it works out... regards, Blueshade 13:49, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)
[edit] just one tiny remark about Hajor's pics rearrangement...
it now breaks miserably on larger-resolution screens... - Blueshade
- Really? I'm running 1280x1024 (but maybe that's not considered large any more, at least in your town). Is it a browser issue with the "< div >" command? It looks ok here in Opera 7 and IE 6, with 2 different skins. Would you like to try placing them individually at different points of the article instead of stacking them, see if that works? –Hajor 13:48, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)
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- uh... i'm running at 1280x960 under Opera 7.54... and this is indeed considered a rather large resolution here... but to the point - just to clarify what i mean, i uploaded the screenshot (on the right), so you know what i'm talking about... anyway, i already had no idea how to arrange the pics so they could render correctly enough in most situations and that's why i had put them all aligned to the right at the beginning of the article (they aligned themselves nicely along the right edge - i know that's not too interesting a way to put the images into an article but i know no better as for now)... - Blueshade 12:21, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- OK, our setups aren't that dissimilar, then -- except from what I can see, you can get by with a much smaller default font! I'll put 'em all in a single stack, see if that resolves the overlap. (Are there any guidelines anywhere on how to include a large number of pics in an article without causing display problems?) BTW, when you say, they "aligned themselves nicely along the right edge," do you mean vertically or horizontally? It sounds like you mean vertically, but what I was seeing was horizontal: looked pretty rough, that's why I changed it. –Hajor 01:47, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)
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- hmm... it certainly was "vertically"... i assumed that's how they would look elsewhere, but apparently, i assumed wrong... - Blueshade 11:38, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)
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- does it look ok in your browser now, after your "pic layout fun" ;) ? - it looks all right from here... regards, Blueshade 11:41, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Looks fine here, now, sure. Re the "vertical" vs. "horizontal" layout in your edit of 07:39, 8 Feb 2005, here's a screenshot of what I get in Opera (similar to what I get in IE, too). I'm really curious about why your Opera 7.54 and my Opera 7.54 (Win 2000) would render the page differently. I see a fair number of articles with the pics jaggedly aligned like that in a horizontal line (admittedly, normally only two at a time, not seven as in this case), and I could be really quite upset if those pages display correctly everywhere else other than my machine. Does anyone know? –Hajor 14:14, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Vandilism
- Is it just or does it seem like someone is deliberately trying to vandalize this page? I'm not sure if anything can be done about it, unless we can see some pattern to the vandalism, and some how block that. - Rhorn 16:50, Mar 20, 2005 (UTC)
Yeah, I wonder why this article gets vandalized relatively often — how do people find it and why do they pick it? However, I fail to see a pattern in the last few instances of vandalism. There are a lot of tests and first contributions. It's a mystery. — mark ✎ 22:09, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC) Added links to United Kingdom and France in section about Suez Crisis, this was not vandalism but constructive editing, User:Iosef Aetos
[edit] Re: comment about the Russian engineer, Zuk
There appears to be no information on the web about Zuk, a Russian engineer or a Hydroproject Institute. I understand that there have been some recent concerns and problems with the Russians about the Aswan Dam. Can anyone direct me to further information about this engineer and the interaction between Egypt and Russia and the problems with the Dam? Thanks.
[edit] Whats in the center of it?
What is in the center of the Aswan dam? is a question from my class. Anyone know?
[edit] What is the address of the Aswan Dam?
Please tell...
The Geographic Coordinates are:
23°58'14.12"N, 32°52'40.30"E
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Latitude 23.970589° Longitude 32.877861°
The comment "The dam has been implicated in a rise in cases of schistosomiasis (bilharzia), due to the thick plant life that has grown up in Lake Nasser, which hosts the snails who carry the disease." is incorrect. There are no major settlements along the lake shore. There are fishermen on the lake but this population relative to the population of >70 million people down stream from the High Dam are too small to consider a "rise in cases". Soon after the High Dam was closed, numerous environmental articles claimed that the Dam would create a major increase in schistosomiasis. Some even claimed a plague of schistosomiasis would occur. These claims were not based on epidemiologic data. Two species of schistosomes have historically existed in Egypt. One species has all but disappeared. The other species, occurs essentially in the Nile Delta at the opposite end of the Nile river from the Dam. This species, S. mansoni, has been controlled by decades of treatment programs. The idea that schistosomiasis increased in the Nile valley north of the Dam after it was closed is not based on evidence.
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DeWolfeMiller 13:46, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
I have read and I can't recall where that the lake is expected to breach the dam due to high levels of sediment with in the next ten years and flood out 90% of Egypt's population. If someone has time to verify or deny this, it would be useful to the article, I think. 207.188.251.101 21:33, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
What is the Altitude (height above sea level) of the dam? I could not find it in the article... (Semi, 11 March 2008)
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- Already found in Lake_Nasser article, that it is 183 m... (Semi, 11 March 2008)
[edit] Intro
How about a nice introcution? The words "proper planning began"... what the ? Slow down! Make a decent intro. Say something like "The Aswan dam is the name given to the dam that regulates the flow of the River Nile" although granted that it's main aim was to produce HE energy. Tourskin 03:07, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
That was a clear case of vandalism by User:Hollistercow393, who clearly has way too much time on his hands. I reverted to article to the version before cow-child messed with it. Mike 03:20, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
- It still looks like it needs an intro. Are you sure its okay now? I think we need to protect it.Tourskin 04:36, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Nubian displacement
There is no mention of the displacement of the Nubian ethnic minority, thousands were forced to move, much of their classical architecture was forced to be replaced... If the Nubians were in power and what if the Nubians put the dam upriver? or found a sustainable and proper solution for the water in all of Egypt...not be all political but it just seems that people think they can solve all the problems by building a big dam - look at China...please I admit big dams increase national water and electricity levels but what about the amount of water that's wasted...Domsta333 13:14, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Please don't post pictures of the dam
It is a violation of Egyptian law to take pictures of the dam, for security reasons. Therefore, no pictures of the dam should be posted with this article because they were obtained illegally. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.72.82.38 (talk) 11:36, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is not subject to Egyptian law. The images are acceptable here. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 23:11, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
- Not only is it not subject to Egyptian law, but have you ever been to the dam? There's hundreds of tourists there every hour snapping pictures of everything. I can understand not posting pictures of security areas that do not have an educational value, but otherwise it's just ridiculous. Edg126 19:42, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
