Talk:Astral Weeks
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 |
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Belfast, an attempt to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to the City of Belfast, Northern Ireland on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, you can edit the article attached to this page, or visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion. | ||
| B | This article has been rated as B-Class on the assessment scale. (If you rated the article please give a short summary at comments to explain the ratings and/or to identify the strengths and weaknesses of the article.) |
||
|
Article Grading: |
|||
|
WikiProject Belfast tasks:
|
|||
 |
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Albums, an attempt at building a useful resource on recordings from a variety of genres. If you would like to participate, visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion. |
| B | This article has been rated as B-class on the quality scale. |
| Top | This article has been rated as Top-importance on the importance scale. |
|
The article has been rated for quality and/or importance but has no comments yet. If appropriate, please review the article and then leave comments here to identify the strengths and weaknesses of the article and what work it will need. |
|
 |
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Ireland, an attempt to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to Ireland on Wikipedia. For more information, or to get involved, visit the project page. | |
| B | This article has been rated as B-Class on the Project's quality scale. (If you rated the article please give a short summary at comments to explain the ratings and/or to identify the strengths and weaknesses.) |
|
| Low | This article has been rated as Low-importance on the priority scale. | |
Beefart says: It seems to me that the assertion that Mingus' Astral Weeks was not released until 1990 cannot be right. Can anybody find a date for the release of the original vinyl disc?
Lewiscode says: Original Vinyl was released Apr 14, 1964.
Beefart says: No, I don't think so. It was recorded that day. Even the Danes, with their legendary efficiency, can't record a sextet in the morning and have the discs in the record shops before 5 pm... So the question remains unanswered....
Contents |
[edit] Split
Should the section of Mingus's album be split into another article?
- Yes
- Of course! Camillus (talk) 03:00, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
- Definitely - User:Lewiscode
- Immediately, no questions asked. Suppose there is a relationship between the two albums -- well, that's what wikilinks are for! :-) Mattbrundage 05:41, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
- Agree with Mattbrundage. - Akamad 07:16, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
- Obviously. If all other name clashes are split into other articles, why on Earth should this be an exception?
- No
Beefart is opposed for the time being. There are a number of unanswered questions here. I suspect that there is an interesting untold tale buried in the relationship between the two albums. When these facts have been clarified by contributors, then it may be appropriate to separate the two articles.
Beefart is retarded for the time being. If we split off a separate article on Morrison's Astral Weeks, we can include a link to Mingus's album at the top and you can have fun "clarifying the facts." - Batkins 02:12, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
Beefart says: Your entry is under "No" when you voted "Yes". Meeennwhile, nobody has come up with and ANY "clarifying facts". Funny about that. Facts are hard to find, unlike snide remarks, which any fool can suck out of his orifice. Besides, the split was made weeks ago. How come you didn't notice that? Beefart is shitfaced whenever he writes for Wikipedia. What's your excuse?... Captainbeefart 12:39, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Cover
I think that Maria McKee has also covered "The Way Young Lovers Do," on her album, You Gotta Sin to Get Saved. Should this be added?
[edit] Personnel
Personnel
I think Van Dyke Parks added his idiosyncratic harpsichord on some of the tracks. Definitely on Cypress Avenue. Richard Davis may have played some pretty wild stuff, but listen closely to that harpsichord: typically Parks. Does anybody know if this is indeed the other 'Van'?
[edit] Awesome edit
On 05:49, 20 December 2005; by user: 68.77.140.193 - a huge chunk of material about the recording session. Wonderful stuff. The very heart of this article was created at that moment by that unknown user. All in one go. I sincerely hope that it's not a copyright theft. Well written information like that is what all articles in Wiki should be striving for. SilkTork 14:58, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
- The material follows the text of Can You Feel the Silence? closely, but does not copy it, except in noted quotations. The unknown user was certainly industrious, and we all should be grateful to them.Agadant 22:02, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Wonderful edit, but still one big problem!
I am currently working on the French version of this entry. I own several books about Van Morrison, but the only thing I have ever read about the session that took place on October, the 1st is this sentence extracted from Celtic Crossroads, the Art of Van Morrison by Brian Hinton, Sanctuary Publishing: "After a morning booking, the very worst time of the day for improvising musicians, and at which the playing was so lacklustre that the session was abandoned, the reassembled cast caught fire again at dusk on 15 October." I can hardly imagine that someone who gave such an amount of (accurate) details could make up some of them. However, I am not converted yet, since these facts seem to appear somewhat magically. I mean, where do these details come from ? The influence of the English wikipedia is so strong that many other countries have already spread these pieces of information, which are possibly untrue. So I decided to hide a part of the text. I know I am not very good at English, I hope I have been able to make me understand, because this subject is a bit complicated. I am actually begging for international help! A quick answer would make me very happy.Noar 21:24, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] The Oct. 1st session
Clinton Heylin's Van Morrison biography (Can You Feel The Silence?: A New Biography) also mentions the Oct. 1st session and dates "The Way Young Lovers Do" from this second session.
The biography may have been the source for much of this information, but the wording has been changed and the information has been condensed. The book has some more interesting details regarding Morrison's troubles, like one anecdote involving the mob. Juicy stuff, but could be hearsay.L1759 20:32, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Origin of title of Astral Weeks
I found two references in two different books that agree that Morrison got the title for Astral Weeks while visiting an artist friend, Cezil McCartney, (when back in Belfast after THEM folded) and before he went back to the United States and recorded the album. Therefore I removed the statement that Morrison has never said how the title originated. Agadant 20:10, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
Beefart says: Excellent! One mystery remains: Why did Mingus use the same name and did he beat Morrison to the punch?
[edit] Album and article rating
How is the category: Top importance Album articles-(which is probably U.S generated) and Top importance Ireland articles (which seems to be by U2 only) rating system from [Top to Low] determined? - Otherwise, it is hard to explain how this album is rated of low importance in the country of origin of it's composer?- Best of Lists-Acclaimed Music Note: It is also in the Grammy Hall of Fame. Agadant (talk) 17:00, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
