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This article seems inconsistent with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phalanx_formation:

"Some historians and authorities date the formation of the hoplite phalanx of ancient Greece to the eighth century BC in Sparta, though this is being revised as it is more likely that the formation was devised in the seventh century BC after the introduction of the Aspis shield (popularly but mistakenly known as the hoplon) by the city of Argos, which would have made the formation possible."

Theblindsage 06:26, 8 February 2007 (UTC) Aspis seems to be an alternate name for the clipeus. Both are the name of a Carthaginian city. Aspis was apparently the Carthaginian name for the place, while Clipeus was the Roman/Greek term for the location. In either case, the place gave its name to the shield. The shield itself seems to be a shoulder-to-knee (40") concave shield made of twisted wicker or layered wood, covered with 4-8 layers of ox-hide, and bound with a metal rim. Early versions used a balteus to carry them, but later replaced them with enarmes.

http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/secondary/SMIGRA*/Clipeus.html http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Strabo/6B*.html

[edit] Also the name of a dragon ??? (Moved from article space)

(moved from article space. Not relevant here):

Aspis (sing) Aspises (pl) A small dragon in the legends and folklore of medievil Europe.

Reference : Rose, Carol. (2000). Giants, Monsters and Dragons. Norton —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.89.43.14 (talk) 18:40, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] This article contains no relevant content on the title.

Why is the entire article about the contextual meaning of the term hoplon when a) the title of the article is aspis, and b) this is not Wiktionary? Yeah. --70.131.61.17 (talk) 18:59, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] MILHIST B-class checklist

This article has a few issues that need to be addressed. First, as raised by the anon above, the definitions of hoplon need to go, as the anon astutely observed, this is not the Wiktionary, nor is it required to illustrate the point that aspis were/are commonly referred to as hoplons. Second, is sources; it appears that there's a source in the end of the main section, but this needs to be properly formatted as an in-line citation with the standard <ref> </ref> tags. Parsecboy (talk) 23:29, 29 May 2008 (UTC)