Talk:Asian carps

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If black carp have yet to be discovered outside of the ponds in which they have been bred, why does the black carp article discuss them having escaped in the wild? Suppafly 22:56, 6 Oct 2004 (UTC)wtf

I have made several changes, hopefully bringing this somewhat more up to date. However, I am an extreme newbie (first posts today) so please let me know if I violated any protocols in any way. I'm not sure how to set up a reference section, or I would have done it here.

One note on a change that may take some explanation: I deleted the sentence on their escape from aquaculture ponds because of floods that occurred in the early 90's. It is easy to find references to this particular occurence in the media and sometimes even in the scientific literature. However, grass, bighead, and silver carps were all established in the Mississippi River basin prior to the 90s. While there are two documented cases where the fish did escape farms during flooding in the 90s, these can hardly be considered the original source of the fish. Escape from aquaculture (or research facilities, or from sewage treatment plants, where bighead and silver carps were also used) does not require flooding; there are many other ways that the fish could have escaped other than flooding, including but not limited to intentional dumping and negligence. Grass carp were intentionally stocked into systems where they could access riverine systems, sometimes directly into rivers. Carptracker 23:43, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Should be "Asian carps"

Correct English would have this as Asian carps, because the plural of carp, when referring to more than one species, should be carps. (Much like fish and fishes) I don't know how to change the header.

Also, I am still not really happy with the first sentence. Carps are generally broken down into Asian carps (bighead, silver, grass, black, barbless, long spikyhead, etc.)and Indian carps (mrigal, rohu, catla, etc), and then further broken down into "major" and "minor" based largely on size. Seems like some discussion of this should be there, but I don't have time to do it right. I'm not enough of an expert on the ones that have not been introduced to the USA to do it right quickly. Carptracker 14:04, 12 April 2007 (UTC)