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[edit] rocket into hospital
The rocket that hit the Ashkelon hospital did not hit it in may 2008 but earlier, in februray 08: http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3512185,00.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.229.116.204 (talk) 19:10, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Image Size
The image on this page needs to be reset for a smaller size. Brockthepaine 16:39, 25 Mar 2008
- Done - there was some change at WikiMedia which meant that this happened on many pages. The fix: simply to remove the px from after the image size although also in this case the 3 was missing from the main image. Thanks for flagging it up. Flymeoutofhere (talk) 16:13, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Name: What is Ashqelon-Ashkelon
How pretentious that Ashkelon is Ashqelon in the English-language Wikipedia, to stroke parochial vanities. Wetman 16:22, 6 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Wha...? Where is this coming from? Isn't Ashqelon the official spelling? It was always my understanding that Ashkelon is a media spelling, much like Rechovot instead of Rehovot, or Eilat instead of Elat, or Hawaii instead of Hawai‘i. Ashqelon is also the closest diacritic-free spelling alternate to the academic Standard Hebrew transliteration, Ašqəlon. What's the matter? Who's stroking whose vanities? - Gilgamesh 01:00, 7 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- There is no "official" spelling, but Ashkelon is the most common.--Josiah 01:02, 7 Aug 2004 (UTC)
This is what I know. Before recently when I merged Ashkelon and Ashqelon, Ashkelon was about the history of the city (including modern times), and Ashqelon was purely about the Israeli city with a few more specific details on it. It's also been Asqalān in Arabic and Ascalon in Latin. With all the different forms, I thought it proper to unite them under the Standard Hebrew name. - Gilgamesh 02:49, 7 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Also, look at the page history of Ashqelon to see how the article already existed. Since it's the article for the city today, I put Ashkelon's content in the history section then placed a redirect to Ashqelon. And "Ashqelon" is not as uncommon as you may think — there are thousands of Google results for it. There's nothing pretentious about it; it would instead seem to suggest that Ashqelon and Ashkelon are both permissable spellings and neither is necessarily wrong. Also, plenty of other articles for Israeli cities (and Israeli settlements) use Q in the article spelling. See Qiryat Arba. - Gilgamesh 02:55, 7 Aug 2004 (UTC)
One reason that there was an entry Ashkelon for the ancient city and a separate Ashqelon for the modern one is that the modern city is not historically continuous with the ancient site, nor even exactly on the same ground. (Please click on the link.) "Ashkelon" has been the standard spelling in English print since the 17th century, google-schmoogle. Wetman 01:43, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- Alright, I won't dispute it. "Ashkelon" it is. - Gilgamesh 04:23, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Issues regarding using "Canaanite" as a "Hebrew" script
Please see comments regarding this matter at [1] Thank you. IZAK 08:00, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Changes of Hebrew definitions
See discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Judaism#New "twist and turn" as "Hebrew alphabet" is switched to "Hebrew languages" concerning appropriate uses of the word "Hebrew" here. IZAK 05:33, 10 Aug 2004 (UTC)
[edit] History
A large chunck of history between Byzantium and the Crusades needs to be filled in. --Yodakii 08:42, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
- Equaly important, a large chunk of history between 7th Century and 1948 needs to be filled in from the vantage point of its own culture and inhabitants. Al Majdal was not exactly a ghost town unless you consider Arabs or Muslims to be ghosts. It is for this reason that a separate page for AL Majdal is necessary in order to have freedom of thought and justice. This is not intended to be a political argument. I simply don't see how the current page here can survive a transition from a mind-set that is fixated on European events to another that is concerned with local events like any other functional city. It needs to address historical landmarks such as the shrine of Imam Hussein and the fountain of Job (Biblical figure) for example. Users who keep redirecting Al majdal seem to be in denial of the fact that others once inhabited the city for a very long period of time. And that many important historical events took place over there and would need to link to somewhere when the topics are written and cleaned. Thank you for your consideration. HAE
this text has been reverted into a very empty version:
Ashkelon (Hebrew: אַשְׁקְלוֹן; Tiberian Hebrew ʾAšqəlôn; Arabic: عسقلان ʿAsqalān ; Latin: Ascalon) is a city in the western Negev, in the South District of Israel. It was established on the area of an the ancient Philistine (an non-semitic sea people unrelated to todays people by similar name). Ashkelon is seaport on the east coast of the Mediterranean Sea just north of Gaza, close to the ruins of the ancient city which existed for over 5000 years. There are about 117,000 citizens in the city. The anciant city was detroyed at 604 BC by the Babilonian king Nbochadnezar and again during the Arab conquest in 1270 AD. An Arab settlement called "Al-Mijdal" was established on the site after the original area was destroyed completely by the Mamluke king Biberes after it had served as a Crusader base. There remained a large Jewish population in the town until the Crusaders invaded the region in 1153. This was the remnant of the population into which Hordus the king had been born, the Jewish King who rebuilt the Second Temple, and also invested in much building efforts in Ashkelon. The city is home to several startigic facilities such as a power plant, a small harbor and one of the world largest de-salinization plant - all located at the southern end of the city. Recently, the area has been a target of Palestinian Kasam rockets fired from Gaza.
i figure there's some good info here which needs to be readmitted, i will maybe give it a go at a later date. Jaakobou 05:46, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
The first requirement is a good source, but that text had no source at all. Second, a lot of that material is already present in the article in a more reliable form. Third, some of this text is pure speculation, such as the claim that the Jewish population in 1153 was a remnant of some population of 1500+ years earlier. This is way, way, more than any actual historical evidence can possibly be found for. We should avoid speculative assertions. Of course, well-sourced data on the Jewish history would be welcome (though not necessarily in the introduction). Also the time of founding of al-Migdal needs a source and besides it was not "on the site" but a few km to the north-east. It wasn't even the closest Arab village to the site (that was al-Jurah). The relevance of al-Migdal to this article is that the houses of al-Migdal were the initial buildings of modern Ashkelon. --Zerotalk 08:08, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Ashkelon is NOT Mijdal
I am really not sure why all this Mijdal info is in this article.
Ashkelon is a city that existed from biblical times and now a city in modern israel.
Mijdal is a Palestinian village/town that was near by (a bit inland) and no longer exist - it dersve it;s own article like many non exist Palestinians towns. Zeq 15:59, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Crusader period History
I rewrote the Crusader history section for Ashkelon because i thought it was unacceptable considering that this was an important city during that period. I'll do the Roman and Byzantine history at a later date. Hera52 17:51, 01 July 2007
[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:AshkelonLogo.jpg
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BetacommandBot (talk) 18:57, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Stop anti Israeli propaganda on this page.
Stop declaring lies based on propaganda books about the city of Ashkelon. Whoever is responsible for this page should not allow people to write fake contest under disguise of quoting serious books.
[edit] Stop anti Israeli propaganda on this page.
Stop declaring lies based on propaganda books about the city of Ashkelon. Whoever is responsible for this page should not allow people to write fake context under disguise of quoting serious books. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Creativityisme (talk • contribs) 04:56, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Major POV Issues
This article has major POV issues, particularly in the Modern History section. If the information is verifiable, it needs to be worded much differently. I have not seen such a bad case of NPOV on Wikipedia in quite a while.
