Talk:Ashes to Ashes (David Bowie song)

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[edit] Another take on the song

Some will say that the story behind the song "Ashes to Ashes" is one of swearing off the song Space Oddity[citation needed]. The line "My mother said to get things done you better not mess with Major Tom" alludes to how he has overplayed the song and if he's going to make artistic advancements then he will drop the song. Also the line "Time and again I tell myself, I'll stay clean tonight, But the little green wheels are following me" says that he keeps telling himself the he will stop playing it but has become a slave of the song. This coincides with the drug addiction theme as well saying that he has become a slave of the song just as he has become a slave to his drugs. And with that he says, "Now I'm happy, hope you’re happy too". It was around this time that the song was dropped from setlists and not picked up until the Sound and Vision Tour (this is unconfirmed). Though the song hasn’t been played since Bowie's 50th Birthday Concert at Madison Square Garden and that in itself was a rare event.

[edit] Re: Live performances

Argh, the dodgy English threw me off... Nevermind.


Tom Prankerd 20:30, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Background singing in first verse

Towards the end of the first verse there are different lyrics being sung in the background. They go something like 'Songs that please the earth but leave the mind blown.....<something>...since 1974'.

Any ideas, anyone? Martyn Smith 20:46, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Flashes of other Bowie songs?

I've always thought that the video contains references to a lot of other Bowie songs, on top of the Major Tom sub-text that we all know about. There's one shot of Bowie sinking and looking worried ("Quicksand"?) and then there's my mother, my dog and clowns ("Life on Mars"). There are others no doubt. Did I dream it? BaseTurnComplete 21:57, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ashes to Ashes disambiguation page?

This page regarding Bowie also points in the direction of two other links about 'Ashes to Ashes'. There's likely to be a spin-off from BBC's Life On Mars also called Ashes To Ashes. Just givig a heads up that a disambiguation page may be required sometime soon.

[edit] Sampled in another track

Ashes to Ashes' intro was sampled in a fairly recent pop song performed by a female singer or group... I can't remember what this song was called, however. Anyone know? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.29.92.13 (talk) 18:27, 5 April 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:AshesToAshes3.jpg

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BetacommandBot 12:06, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Done. Cheers, Ian Rose 12:43, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

If you play this song (from a vinyl LP) at 45 rpm, it has a raggae beat. So, basically its a slowed down raggae song. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.70.155.3 (talk) 10:23, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Coopted iconography

I've added a section on the borrowing of Bowie's original iconography for the TV series Ashes to Ashes. Can anybody think of a decent name for this section? I didn't called it "TV series" as I don't want to give the impression that the series is closely related to the video or the song. Graham and Pharaoh simply liked the images and borrowed them as a shorthand for the early 1980s. --Tony Sidaway 19:42, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

I don't have a prob with the section title you've chosen, Tony, although it could also go by the generic References in Popular Culture, as that's effectively what it is - and because you've written it in prose, I don't think such a title should inspire a knee-jerk Trivia tag like many such sections do. Regardless of the section name, however, can you add a citation re. the inspiration the writers took? At the moment it's the only section without a source. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 23:48, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the advice. I've provided the citations. If more popular culture references emerge, perhaps they can be merged into a single section under "popular culture." --Tony Sidaway 01:13, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
Yep, that'd be the way, ta. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 01:18, 10 February 2008 (UTC)