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Disambiguation

This needs to be a disambiguation page. -- Zoe

Good pick-up, Zoe. But in this case we should clearly go with the primary meaning rule: words that descend from other words (i.e., that are named after them) go to a subsiduary title.
For example, the bomber aircraft called "Canberra" was named after the city, so the city entry is Canberra, while the aircraft becomes English Electric Canberra.
In this case, the primary meaning is the Ashanti people of Africa (at a wild guess there would be 20 or 40 million of them). A band that chooses to name itself after the people thus becomes Ashanti (singer) or something similar. It is offensive to take the position that 4 musicians (or 14 - whatever number) are more important than an entire nation with a proud history. Tannin 02:06 Apr 25, 2003 (UTC)

I agree. -- Zoe

moved. Tannin

Actually, Ashanti is only one person (just for the record) -- Kwekubo

Copyright

"Ashanti’s Microsoft® Encarta® Reference Library 2003. © 1993-2002 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved."

What is the above doing on the article page? it makes me suspicious. - Xed 17:22, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)

(I'm talking about the Ashanti page, not the Ashanti (singer) page. I can only access the singer talk page for some reason.. -- Xed 17:28, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Gay Icon Project

In my effort to merge the now-deleted list from the article Gay icon to the Gay icons category, I have added this page to the category. I engaged in this effort as a "human script", adding everyone from the list to the category, bypassing the fact-checking stage. That is what I am relying on you to do. Please check the article Gay icon and make a judgment as to whether this person or group fits the category. By distributing this task from the regular editors of one article to the regular editors of several articles, I believe that the task of fact-checking this information can be expedited. Thank you very much. Philwelch 20:01, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Vocal Profile

which song Ashanti hits G6?? Some singers have just their notes but I wanna know in what music they hit them... There's just the notes and octaves of some singers in their respective pages, but I would like to know in what songs they hit their highest and lowest notes...
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I don't know if it's just me, but I found this section confusing. "Unlike many other singers with the ability, Ashanti, while possessing a clear, girly, coloratura soprano voice, has built a career singing in the lower and middle ranges of her voice." Sure, I'll buy that. But: "...as of late, Ashanti has used her head register so infrequently, many who ...would mistakenly classify her as a classic example of a soubrette." Reading soubrette says "In popular music...The term refers to a woman with a light, youthful voice."
Is it just me, or can a person not "build a career singing in the lower and middle ranges" and be mistaken for a soubrette, who would be a higher-ranged singer? It seems to be contradictory.
I don't know enough about vocals to correct it or even be sure it needs correcting. Even if this is right, I think it needs more clarifying. ~Garnet Avi

For clarification, a coloratura soprano is a soprano with an extensive range and ornate singing style, meaning a singer who can sing a many different notes and even at times access the whistle register. A soubrette has a limited voice and can't reach higher notes. Mariah Carey is an example of a dramatic coloratura soprano and Kiely Williams of 3LW would be the best example of a soubrette I can think of.PhoenixPrince 16:31, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I have a question also...what does her "slender appearance" have to do with her vocal abilities? Lesanichelle 06:15, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Ashanti hit G6 when she was performing the National Anthem in high school. Go on www.youtube.com and type in Ashanti(National Anthem). There will be a video featuring clips of Ashanti performing the National Anthem. The G6 can be heard, but you have to listen carefully because people are cheering while she is doing it. It is near the end.
If you're talking about when she sing "Free" then its not the whistle register. But she does hit Eb6 which is the first whistle note flat. The notes for free are: Bb5,C6,D6,Eb6,C6,D6,Bb5. I think this is enough to consider her a Coloratura. Shre really impressed me. I used to think she was a soubrette because she uses so little of her range, but she is obviously a coloratura soprano and should be able to sing in the whistle register but Eb6 is her highest recorded. If the G#6 is during brave then its not loud enough to varify. Myke 07:09, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

if Ashanti is soprano than so is Aaliyah no way Aaliyah's an alot when she sings soprano so well and can access her full range way better than Ashnati can acess hers

Requested move

She is more commonly known by the single name "Ashanti."----

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Discussion

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Discision

Moved as requested. Ryan Norton T | @ | C 11:38, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

"50 Cent would later mock Ja Rule as being soft and "not a true gangsta", citing the "Mesmerize" video and its pop-culture appeal as an example."
- This is what drives me mad about hip hop culture; 50 Cent calls Ja Rule "not a true gangsta" as a CRITICISM?! That's a compliment!! 50 Cent (and all other human beings on this planet who believe that respect is only entitled to those who carry out horrific atrocities and are arrogant fools) is one twisted indvidual.

need disambiguation

This page does not show up when you type Ashanti. You get a disambiguation page, but this is missing from it. Could someone please add this to it? 203.129.128.94 00:31, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Why is Nelly not mentioned?

On Nelly's page, it says he's dating her. Put it in Ashanti's page, too! please it says the crap on both pages their not together there friends period and hell no they not getting married like i sad grow the hell up !

CLEAN UP

This article seems to sound like a fan page when you read it and it shouldn't. This article needs to be cleaned up.

I agree. It's a mess. I'll try to clean it up a bit. --Musicpvm 20:13, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Copyright

Have reverted a large chunk from Early Career which seems to be bits and pieces from here:

http://www.vh1.com/artists/az/ashanti/bio.jhtml

Miss Saff 11:16, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Page/Single Stat Problems

  • Hey, I was just trying to fix the page today and I wasn't logged in and 2 people (clean up people I guess) thought I was messing the page up. I have the CORRECT stats on all ashanti's singles and I was just trying to fix them. I corrected her album sales and her grammy history box but whoever messed the page up made the grammy history box merge with the rest of the stuff @ the bottom and I don't know how to fix that.

http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/retrieve_chart_history.do?model.vnuArtistId=447037&model.vnuAlbumId=655624 <<one of the sites

Ok I just found the Good site: http://www.mariah-charts.com/chartdata/PAshanti.htm < All the singles stats are there. And they are correct. I've fixed the page to how it was before it was messed up ( I actually read the tutorials lol). It still needs a cleanup but at least the info is right now. I also saved the data on this page.

- It'sOnlyU 6 April 2006


Producer?

Hello, I was working on redirecting the links pointing to the disambiguation page for producer - I wasn't able to decide/discover which sense of the word was intended in the introductory sentence of this article. I'd appreciate a little guidance. I'll watch this page for a while in case anyone can help. Thanks. - Politepunk 20:19, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

When referring to music, it should be linked to record producer. --Musicpvm 18:50, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm removing worldwide sales from the article

Until somebody can provide a link to a source, they should be removed. 90% of the edits to this article have been users modifying her sales back and forth. --Musicpvm 07:06, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Dear Musicpvm,(6/12/06)

I have the source for the WW album sales that I put up but I need just a few days to put them up. They'll be up in just a few days.

Ok, I removed them for now because other users will continue to change them. After you have a link to the source, you can put them back. --Musicpvm 01:21, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

vocals

Ashanti can be classified as whistle register singer because on her true first albulm Can't stop before she met Gotti she was hitting real high notes one especially being held long on More Than A melody. I wonder why she been down playing herself cuz on that albulm she showed she could sang.


Removal of voice section

There is ZERO pov about the section. No specific notes are named. Everything stated can be backed up to defs per other Wikipedia articles or published media. She has been derided for a lack of range. Early promo material has called her a soprano, despite a lack of singing to demonstrate. I put it back, if you don't like it, holler at me. Antares33712 22:30, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Ashanti

OK first of all Ashanti is a HIP HOP singer not pop there is a big line between hip hop and pop. Pop is more along the lines of Hilary Duff and Jessica Simpson. Ashanti, Beyonce and Alicia Keys sing Hip Hop and R&B so please correct that thank you

Ashanti is NOT hip hop; she is R&B. --musicpvm 04:30, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Pop stands for popular and last time I checked, all of those artists are popular.

that doesn't have anything to do with it she herself always describes herself as hip-hop and r&b just like mary. pop songs are just for sales and have no real meaning she doesn t make that

Ancestry

Since someone tagged this a long time ago and it is still uncited to a reputable source (no, not the IMDB or other trivia sites, so don't get your hopes up), here it is pending a source: "Ashanti's father is of African American and Chinese American descent and her mother is 1/4 African American and 3/4 Dominican." Mad Jack 05:48, 31 July 2006 (UTC)


on her imdb profile it says that her father is african american and chinese. but i dont know where someone got dominican from.


Genre

Ashanti Is a R&B, Hip Hop, and Pop Artist. It's very clear that she is a hip hop artist from her first cd and even on her third cd's intro she says "Concrete Rose because when you think of Hip-Hop, you think of something grimy and gritty, Concrete, But when you think of R&B, You think Of Something soft and sensual, sorta like a rose. My Music is consider Hip Hop and R&B, hence, Concrete Rose"

Also I found a VH1 interview:[1]

VH1: Why did you decide to call your new album Concrete Rose?

Ashanti: We chose the title because when you think of hip-hop you think of something grimy, raw, or from the gutter - something concrete. When you think of R&B, you think of something soft and smooth and sensual like a rose. So with my music being hip hop and R&B, hence, Concrete Rose.


vocal range- can u say that ashanti can hit whistle register listen to the note she hits in the begining of this clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPMHYKKCStU -User:It'sOnlyU

someone needs to put hip hop back


WHO KEEPS ADDING POP BACK SHE DESCRIBES ALL HER MUSIC TO BE HIP HOP AND RANDB. IF U MUST PUT POP U HAVE TO PROVIDE REFERENCE —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Danotorious1jd (talk • contribs).

Please sign your comments on talk pages and do not type in all capital letters. Ashanti is not a hip hop musician. Read the hip hop music article if you are unaware of what the genre encompasses. Almost every current R&B artist uses hip hop beats and collaborates with rappers these days. That does NOT make them hip hop musicians. Ashanti is not an exception to this. She is NOT a rapper, and she is NOT a DJ. Also, Ashanti is definitely pop as well as R&B. She would not have had so many hit singles at mainstream radio if her music was pure R&B. --musicpvm 22:47, 1 September 2006 (UTC)



YEs she is hip hop because she does rap. in the songs wonderful remix, a song that's unfamilar on jarule's pain is love abulm, the still on it remix, and i'm in love again remix. listen to all these songs and she is obviously rapping. She is purely r&b with a pop appeal because pop songs have simple meanings whereas just like r&b she mostly talks about love, life, and love making. if ashanti can be classified as pop so should Beyonce no bias Danotorious1jd 02:54, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Beyonce IS classified as pop. --musicpvm 03:08, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

POP=POPULAR MUSIC. Ashanti is a pop artist also. Many Rnb artist have done pop songs including mariah and whitney. Rock Wit U/Happy were def. pop or had pop appeal. -User:It'sOnlyU

ashanti is not a pop singer, her music does not even play on those types of music stations. they play on hip-hop/r&b stations.

I belive she is pop also, the pussycat dolls have busta rhymes in there song that does not make then hip-hop


PLEASE DONT ADD POP NO MORE

Please Dont Add Pop No More or i will erase it everytime hear me holla at me if u have a problem with that. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lemont (talk • contribs) 03:49, 7 February 2007 (UTC).

Clean up vandalism (vulgarity) in Intro

Please clean up intro section. Below is a paste of the section I found 11/25/06. (I am unable to edit)-Thanks

Ashanti Shequoiya Douglas (born October 13, 1980), professionally known as Ashanti, is an American singer, songwriter, record producer, dancer, poet, actress, and fashion designer who rose to fame in the early 2000s. [Please don't say Nasty things about Ashanti she straight damnment! Not gay assholes!. yall need to grow up and stop talking shit! about her] Hey, I saw that. I tried to delete it, but It wouldn't budge. In Edit Page, it wasn't even there, so I kind of got a little scared. :P

Even though this is kinda off topic can someone help the new list of best-selling remix albums worldwide with its structure.

Merging Ashanti discography with Ashanti

  • Strong Agree - I beleive that Ashanti discography should be merged with Ashanti because I do not see the point of having the discography separate to the actual artist. Jhfireboy I'm listening 22:30, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment - Many, many artists now have a main page and a separate discography, especially those with an extensive history. Ashanti doesn't have a long career so far per se, but I don't see a problem with having two articles. The only problem I have is the huge size of the album cover images. - eo 22:40, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Protection From Vandalism

Becuase Of occasional vandalism to this page, I think I should put restricton to editing the page by unregistered users. Does anyone Agree?

user

yes i do agree with you i think you should move on that right now asap ! Holla back at me if you feel me and try to do that for this hold website ! hollaback at me ! (user) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.8.29.40 (talk) 22:58, 3 February 2007 (UTC).

To Protection From Vandalism

I Do Agree with u and I do think you should do thay now. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lemont (talk • contribs) 03:42, 7 February 2007 (UTC).

Vandalism

I Agree. People keep coming in and changing CITED information. It'sOnlyU 00:36, 13 March 2007 (UTC)It'sOnlyU

Added Stuff to Her Early Life, Acting Career, & Intro with SOURCES

I added a lot of cited things to her page today to help it read better. All sources added are trustworthy (for example Guinnessworldrecords.com). -User:It'sOnlyU

Merge tag

I don't have a problem with merging this page into the main Ashanti article.... however, I don't think that the information here should be lost. I un-merged until more discussion can take place. Please don't merge the articles and just delete the discography info instead of moving it over. - eo 11:20, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Mel Etitis: Aretha Franklin Lady Of Soul award controversy, philantrophy, screenshots & discography

Everything I put on that page is SOURCED. It's funny u keep reverting the article back saying the article is poorly written when I created the revised article u keep changing the current revision back to. You can even check the ashanti dicussion page where I stated that months ago. And if poor writing was the case, u are a wikipedian and you should have tidied the article up yourself where you see fit since you are the only one who seems to think the article needs copy editing. I always posts reliable sources to everything I add and I even included youtube links for a select few sections. The Lady Of Soul Awards controversy needed to be added so I added it. It was a big point in her career. I added her philanthropy which is all sourced. ALL the screenshots have the proper fair use rational in there page descriptions. As for her discography, Every sales figure is SOURCED. All u have to do is click on the link and type in the singers name. The information u keep adding is WRONG and NOTHING is sourced. Nothing is bias or from my POV. Everything is either compiled from album reviews or exclusive interviews with the artist herself.

It'sOnlyU 22:01, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

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