Talk:Asha Bhosle

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Peer review Asha Bhosle has had a peer review by Wikipedia editors which is now archived. It may contain ideas you can use to improve this article.
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography. For more information, visit the project page.
Biography Portal
B This article has been rated as B-Class on the project's quality scale. [FAQ]
This article is supported by the Arts and Entertainment work group.


Wikiproject Indian cinema This article is within the scope of WikiProject Indian cinema, an attempt to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to Indian cinema. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page.
WikiProject_India This article is within the scope of WikiProject India, which aims to improve Wikipedia's coverage of India-related topics. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page.
Start This article has been rated as start-Class on the quality scale. (add comments)
This article is maintained by the Tamil Nadu workgroup.
More information about this article...

Contents

[edit] NPOV

This article now needs some NPOV and copyedit. heidimo 17:32, 9 May 2004 (UTC)

recent edits by 68.192.156.127 have included more non-NPOV content --AbsolutDan (talk) 03:08, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Womad Talking...

This section should not be included in this article. Please put it where it belongs. utcursch 10:00, Dec 3, 2004 (UTC)

She contributed a stand-out song to the recording "Womad Talking Book Volume Four: An Introduction to Asia 1" on Womad Records. The song is Yuhn Na Thi and showcases Bhosle's vocal abilities. She also worked with Ustad Akbar Ali Khan on Legacy, an outstanding album.

Personnel on this recording:

Tracks on this recording:

  • Guru Bandana in Desh Malhar
  • Hori in Kukubh Bilawal
  • Tarana in Adana
  • Tarana in Bhimpalasri
  • Kheyal in Gour Sarang
  • Dhrupad in Sankara Bharan
  • Sadra in Sankara Karan
  • Tarana in Mian ki Malhar (bidar style)
  • Tarana in Bhimpalasri
  • Tarana in Bhupali
  • Hori in Bhairavi
  • Prayer in Bhairavi

Source: "Womad Talking Book Volume Four: An Introduction to Asia 1" liner notes.

[edit] Sections?

The articles looks like a large blob of information. We need to divide it up into suitable sections. - 17 Feb, 2005

Done. utcursch | talk 09:21, August 24, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Nomenclature and other things.

I have been enlisted by Zora to start making edits - hello all! Do talk to me on my discussion pages as well to work on articles elsewhere.

First things first - it's more encyclopaedic and Wikiform to refer to Asha as Bhosle for the purposes of the article. Remember that Wikipedia pages aren't intended to be a repository for fan sites ;o). Please understand those changes as they are brought in. I will be dropping in every now and again to amalgamate sections and to prune others. I need to get my head around just how compendious we need to get! Will be joining in the superhuman efforts of utcursch Autumnleaf 14:57, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Hello Autumnleaf! I saw your edits - really good. You can help clean-up the article. Regarding the nomenclature, I think it's doesn't look right to refer to Asha Bhosle as "Bhosle". But you are right too - it's not proper to call her "Asha" either. So, I think we should simply call her "Asha Bhosle" throughout the article - this might mean an increase of few bytes. utcursch | talk 05:57, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your feedback; really helpful. I guess I went for the classic 'last name' approach as that is the universal custom and these pages are intended as much for the disinterested as they are for those who have heard of her. It is not disrespectful this convention! ML King gets called King after all. Autumnleaf 22:52, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

Interesting discussion, this one. Also, we have a convention on Wikipedia where we use British English for UK and India-related articles and American English for US-related articles. Similarly, since newspapers like The Hindu, magazines like India Today and websites like rediff.com do not use the classic "last name" approach but use first name (e.g. Asha), we should probably follow that. There was a slightly related discussion taking place at Wikipedia_talk:Notice_board_for_India-related_topics/archive4#Adding_an_article_to_a_category. I believe that WP:INWNB and its talkpage should be the right place to discuss these; otherwise, others may end up re-inventing the wheel and having similar discussions on talkpages of other articles. Pl. consider this as just a suggestion, though. --Gurubrahma 05:28, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
I had a look at the discussion . Actually I am not concerned about the general firstname-lastname issue. But for this particular article, calling Ashaji "Bhosle" looks a bit odd - especially, since her husband treated her so badly. Also, she has been always identified as a part of the Mangeshkar family. To an Indian reader, it would look odd if we say "Bhosle's husband was R D Burman" or "Bhosle has collaborated with many foreign artists". But then, I guess people from other part of the world might find it disrespectful to refer Ashaji by her first name. Usually, in English articles about her, she is referred to as "Ashaji", but that doesn't look encyclopedic. So, I would say, let's just call her "Asha Bhosle" throughout the article. utcursch | talk 08:48, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Some revision

I started by correcting one egregious bit of "Hinglish" and ended up rewriting the first part of the article. Then I scrolled down and realized that I had barely scratched the surface. This article is a MESS. It's repetitive, badly written, disorganized, and replete with fancruft. We need to cleanly separate out the personal life from the professional achievements, for one thing. Will do more as I have time. Zora 11:03, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

I've removed some fancruft/POV added by 203.200.40.194 earlier. utcursch | talk 07:42, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
I do not know whether this is the proper place to suggest, I believe a section about Asha's Marathi
songs should be included in this article, unfortunately I am not competent to add it.

[edit] Articles for deletion

This article was nominated for deletion. I've unilateraly speedy kept it in my typically arrogant and "what the fuck?" manner. Rob Church (talk) 14:46, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Thank you. The AfD was mere trolling and vandalism. Zora 18:32, 18 February 2006 (UTC)


[edit] MP3

Global Trekker Albums has downloadable MP3 that you could link to. Some feature Asha Bhosle with Western arrangements. --Error 20:36, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bhosle or Bhonse

Isn't Bhonsle a more common spelling for her name? Asha Bhonsle has about 100 thousand more results than Asha Bhosle. Mar de Sin Speak up! 01:57, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

There is no standard translation scheme for Indian names to English. Since, her IMDB entry calls her "Asha Bhosle", the Wikipedia article about her is located at Asha Bhosle. The note Asha_Bhosle#_note-0 states the alternative spellings. By the way, which search engine did you use? Google returns more results for "Asha Bhosle" than "Asha Bhonsle":
utcursch | talk 03:24, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
I used google, I just didn't put the "quotes". I know that many sources use "Bhosle", but I'm pretty sure most Indian music sites use "Bhonsle" (Raaga, Smashits, etc.) I think "Bhonsle" deserves at least some mentioning on this article. Thanks. Mar de Sin Speak up! 02:00, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
I completely missed the note, sorry! Mar de Sin Speak up! 02:01, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Automated peer review

The following suggestions were generated by a semi-automatic javascript program, and might not be applicable for the article in question.

  • Per Wikipedia:Context and Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dates), months and days of the week generally should not be linked. Years, decades, and centuries can be linked if they provide context for the article.[?]
  • If this article is about a person, please add {{persondata|PLEASE SEE [[WP:PDATA]]!}} along with the required parameters to the article - see Wikipedia:Persondata for more information.[?]
  • Per Wikipedia:Context and Wikipedia:Build the web, years with full dates should be linked; for example, link January 15, 2006.[?]
  • As per Wikipedia:Manual of Style (headings), please do not link words in headings.[?]
  • Per WP:WIAFA, this article's table of contents (ToC) may be too long- consider shrinking it down by merging short sections or using a proper system of daughter pages as per Wikipedia:Summary style.[?]
  • There are a few occurrences of weasel words in this article- please observe WP:AWT. Certain phrases should specify exactly who supports, considers, believes, etc., such a view.
    • it has been
    • many people have
    • might be weasel words, and should be provided with proper citations (if they already do, or are not weasel terms, please strike this comment).[?]
  • Watch for redundancies that make the article too wordy instead of being crisp and concise. (You may wish to try Tony1's redundancy exercises.)
    • Vague terms of size often are unnecessary and redundant - “some”, “a variety/number/majority of”, “several”, “a few”, “many”, “any”, and “all”. For example, “All pigs are pink, so we thought of a number of ways to turn them green.”
  • Please ensure that the article has gone through a thorough copyediting so that it exemplifies some of Wikipedia's best work. See also User:Tony1/How to satisfy Criterion 1a.[?]

You may wish to browse through User:AndyZ/Suggestions for further ideas. Thanks, Shahid • Talk2me 13:59, 2 October 2007 (UTC)