Template talk:Asbox

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[edit] Sorting of the stub templates themselves

Could be

  1. by tempsort parametr
  2. standard * or space
  3. Regardless of tempsort

Thoughts are to sort all by space. Rich Farmbrough, 18:29 26 September 2007 (GMT).

[edit] Metastub and Metapicstub

Yes I am aware of {{Metastub}} and {{Metapicstub}}. Rich Farmbrough, 08:23 27 September 2007 (GMT).

[edit] Other features possibilities please add to list

[edit] Template possibilities

  1. a note field (to be trancluded to articles) <-- definitely needed
  2. sfd parameter
  3. date parameter
  4. categorise template in a template category - or include "whatlinkshere" target. <-- definitely useful to help find new stubs - second option probably preferred by WSS
  5. Support more than one categories explicitly.
    Second cat added. Rich Farmbrough, 13:20 27 September 2007 (GMT).
  6. Remove conditional on template topsort per WP:WSS
    Rich Farmbrough, 11:40 28 September 2007 (GMT).

[edit] Retrofit

  1. Standard header and/or footer on stub templates (not to be transcluded).

[edit] Maker template

  1. subst: to create an Asbox call, plus any appropriate clichés.
  2. includes Category:New stub template to help discover new stub templates.

Rich Farmbrough, 08:23 27 September 2007 (GMT).

[edit] Purpose

Copied (not verbatim) from User talk:Grutness

The purpose is to resolve a number of issues with existing stub templates, by

  1. allowing modifications across the family of templates
  2. allowing standard approaches in particular:
    1. making all templates part of their own class with a sort order of " ".
    2. allowing all templates to support a common sort-order syntax
    3. putting all templates in a category of stub templates if required
    4. allowing simple tests to identify/overrule image size
    5. getting stub boxen to line up better
  3. avoid or reduce new stub templates being code which are broken.

I can very simply retrofit this to at least 95% of existing stub templates, and with a small amount of work to the rest.

Incidentally my idea would be to leave details of style and semantics in the hands of those that are expert in stubs.

Rich Farmbrough, 07:36 27 September 2007 (GMT).

[edit] Additional benefits

  • Also will make discovery of new stub types easier.
  • Will make discovery of substituted template boxen easier (any occurrence of the text "Asbox" in main space).
  • At the same time as the retrofit, can make any other consistent changes to stub templates. (E.G add link to WP:WSS, advice nto to subst, etc. at top.
    • These changes might be better within the template anyway, in the unlikely event they are desired.
  • Consistency will allow for future changes and simpler scanning for problems/features of boxen.

Rich Farmbrough, 08:36 27 September 2007 (GMT).

[edit] Status

  • Tested in userspace
  • Tested on half a baker's dozen score of stub templates.
  • Floated at WP:WSS
  • Piloted on couple of hundred stub templates.

Rich Farmbrough, 09:47 27 September 2007 (GMT).

[edit] To do

  • Await more comments/changes Did
  • Implement round 1 of changes
    1. note field Did
    2. remove conditional topsort Did
    3. change default image size? Did (Alai)
  • User space/sandbox test. Did
  • Move to pilot Did
  • Involve more ppl?
  • See if any more changes forthcoming
  • Y. rinse and repeat
  • N. start implementation.

Rich Farmbrough, 11:47 28 September 2007 (GMT).

[edit] Message

Please add {{pp-template}}. — redmond barry 02:11, 19 October 2007 (UTC) {{editprotected}}

{{pp-template}} is already in an includeonly tag on the (unprotected) /doc subpage as of me checking this request. It appears on the template page as needed. Nihiltres(t.l) 03:17, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Request

I think this should have the "expanding it" plain linked.   jj137 ♠ Talk 23:12, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Me too, 
<span class="plainlinks">[{{SERVER}}{{localurl:{{NAMESPACE}}:{{PAGENAME}}|action=edit}} expanding it]</span>
should work. — str4nd ☕ 15:50, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Interwiki

Hello, Although I want to add an interwiki link into Template:Writingsystem-stub, it uses Template:Asbox. In this case, may I add a code as <noinclude>[[ja:Template:Grammatology-stub]]</noinclude>? Thanks. --Nightshadow28 (talk) 06:37, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] whatlinkshere

I just don't see what the Template:Asbox/whatlinkshere dummy page does that http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?target=Template%3AAsbox&offset=&limit=5000&title=Special%3AWhatlinkshere&namespace=10 doesn't do, without requiring either a dummy page or the code to link to it. Since stub templates are generally not placed in other templates, there is no need to worry about separating out retransclusion. Caerwine Caer’s whines 23:13, 5 February 2008 (UTC)