Talk:Arwing

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Contents 1 G-Diffuser 2 Original Arwing Deconstruction 3 Arwing Designation? 4 Space meters? 5 Arwing Redesigns 6 Nintendo Power's Arwing Cut-out 7 The discoverers?

[edit] G-Diffuser

This sounds kind of weird, but what exactly does the "G-Diffuser" system do? In the article, it says it cleans the engine of dust, but that doesn't sound right. I think it has something to do with the maneuverability of the Arwing. Thunderbrand 17:48, Feb 28, 2005 (UTC)

I always thought it managed all the "C maneuvers" - loop, U-turn, boost, etc. I could be wrong, though. --Spug 18:12, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Well it is an acronym for "Gravity Diffuser". It allows the arwing to function perfectly consistent on different planes, such as the atmosphere of a planet and in deep space. It also allows the machine to execute such tricks such as the brake and loop-de-loops. The infinite booster might also be a plausible extrusion from this component. -Zero^Talk 11:16, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

The Arwing can stand up to 1800 degrees before melting, thanks to it's powerful shields.

Yeah, in StarFox Assault, right after the first level, when you fight Oikanny and his butterfly robot, the G-diffuser really comes in handy when you're trying to navigate through those rocks, and waterfalls.

[edit] Original Arwing Deconstruction

I'm not sure if it could fit in Wikipedia, but I made this document describing how to decode the original Arwing polygon mesh from the first StarFox game.

The document is called "Annotated Deconstruction Of Low Polygon Arwing Object From The Original StarFox." [1]

Maybe you should consider putting it on a seperate page. --Arima 07:23, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Arwing Designation?

• Arwing I (Star Fox 64, Star Fox Adventures)
• Arwing II (Star Fox: Assault)

Even though this is unofficial, it makes some degree of sense. Right? --Arima 07:21, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

No. Nowhere does it in the games do they call them the "Arwing I" and "Arwing II". Thunderbrand 15:39, August 6, 2005

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I agree. Even though it's unofficial, it does make sense, but they should not be labled as "Arwing I" and "Arwing II", but possibly something like "Model 1" and so on. I agree this should be included in this article somehow. -Anony

[edit] Space meters?

Is there a source of information that actually gives the units as "space meters" or like? I don't have anything besides Adventures and Assault at hand right now, but neither manual seems to give any measurements for the vehicles at all (based on a very quick look) and I only have hazy recollections about some third-party material that gives the sizes of the characters in plain old ordinary meters. (Indeed, the character articles right now seem to only use "meters".) Do the sources use "space meters"? Do any newer sources use meters or "space meters"? Would it be prudent to use "meters" for clarity if only one source uses these units and, going just with common sense, well, that darn space meter looks just as long as your ordinary meter to me, unless everything in the game is ten times as large as stuff in real life, or something silly like that =) --wwwwolf (barks/growls) 18:19, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, its kinda weird. The "space meters" thing is from Arima. I think he got it from the Star Fox 64 Player's Guide (which to my recollection had a ton of info on the planets and vehicles). Since the later games, such as Assault and Adventures, don't use any type of measurement, maybe we should remove length/width/height stuff. (To be honest, I don't think it is really important to know the width of the Arwing in Star Fox 64.) Thunderbrand 18:49, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

I think it would probably make sense to do that, since no one knows exactly how long "space meters" are, and therefore it doesn't really give any valuable information. If they could somehow be converted into real units of measurement though, then maybe... Robert 00:06, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

I dont know about Space Meters, but I was able to get the size of the Arwing in Assualt by mesuring the 3D Model

[edit] Arwing Redesigns

Does anyone else think there should be a section explaining that it's unknown weither the Arwing is a single model of fighter that has been refitted over the years, a series of fighters with new models built over the course of the games, or merely the same model fighter that is redesigned for each new game with the implication that it always looked like the new design, as was the case with the Gundam redesigns in Endless Waltz?

There seem to be cases for and against all three scenarios. The first seems to be a popular explaination, and it seems to be the simplest case, but it is also fairly unrealistic, as no military vehicle I know of has ever gone through such extensive refits over the course of its lifespan, especially considering how drastic some of the refits are.

The second theory also seems to answer the problem of the Arwing having such drastic refits, but it is also shot down by the existence of the Arwing II in Star Fox Command, which implies there has been only one model of Arwing until now.

Finally, there's the third theory, which in many ways seems the most likely. It's a fairly common concept in shmups and anime featuring special vehicles. It also explains odd quirks like why the Adventures Arwing is almost a completely new machine, larger and bulkier than previous incarnations, rather than simply a time-worn version of the 64 Arwing. However, there's still a case against this in Star Fox Command, as one screenshot from the story page features a flashback showing a formation of 64's Arwings.

Also, there's a missing Arwing in this article: an old promo image for Star Fox (arcade) featuring a narrow, boat-like design for the Arwing that was also used in the Star Fox Adventures promotional webcomic (officially released only in Japanese but fan translations are available). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tenka Muteki (talk • contribs).

Honestly I do not know. I would be for a section talking about the various incarnations of the machine, though. Thunderbrand 04:31, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Damn, I hate when I forget to sign. Anyway, I guess I was a little long winded; what I really mean is that it should be mentioned somewhere in the article that the nature of the Arwing's redesign is unknown.--Tenka Muteki 05:53, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nintendo Power's Arwing Cut-out

A long time ago as a promotional ad for starfox 64, from what I remember, Nintendo Power magizine had an insert with instructions and the designs for a paper arwing which you can cut out and tape together. I don't have the magizine but its worth mentioning if anyone could find more information on it, I found image files but due to varying sizes and lack of instructions their usefulness is rather short(i basicly hit a brick wall with the blue parts of the arwing(going from ingame appearence) because they just dont line up correctly at the right angle) -Evirus 69.14.33.214 07:34, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The discoverers?

In the section about the Arwing being found in the Zelda game, something isn't right. Yes, i know that it is actually present, because i've seen it. But the discovers announced sounds...false

"...and his Gypsy cousin, Enrique." Says it all, really.