Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Ten Ton Hammer

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Hello, Nicole Hamlett here, I work for the aforementioned insubstantiated network. It appears that our Affiliation with Sigil Games is not a valid indication that we are a credible source for MMO news etc. If I may, could I please have a direct list of things that we need to do as a company to validate our existence within these pages?

Thank you.

[edit] Note from closing admin

I realize that many of the 'keep' arguments here are quite weak and are coming from special purpose accounts, but there's enough keep arguments from established users that this one appears to be a no-consensus to me. A Train ^{take the} 17:05, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Allow me to correct myself. After having another look at the keep arguments, the ones from established users are nary arguments at all:

• "Keep per obvious notability."
• "Keep, when I went to look at the page I wasn't expecting that to be my argument, but it appears relatively NPOV. Several sources are cited, some of them are not very substantial mentions, but it appears some of them are. Forum garbage aside, it appears this one's notable."

I'm going to say there's a consensus to delete here. A Train ^{take the} 17:09, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

I am surprised that you discounted those Keeps; if anything the delete votes should have been given lesser weight because they were all prior to the article being cleaned up. i.e. there was a swing from delete to keep; and my comment provided evidence that this subject was sufficiently notable according to WP:WEB (criteria 3) should have been taken as a vote of weak keep (after all this is a discussion, not a show of hands). John Vandenberg 20:56, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

I recommended deletion on this particular afd, but I would like to mention that a deletion isn't necessarily a permanent affair. My guess is that if the comic's popularity grows and it receives more published reviews and articles, then it could possibly be recreated in six months or a year time with better references to demonstrate notability and for verification.

Also, I'd recommend that if an editor is interested keeping the information around, it could be done in their user space. User space pages don't have the same requirements for references, etc, and it would be a good place to keep a draft version of the article should it be improved at a later date to address some of the concerns in the afd. Dugwiki 00:10, 1 February 2007 (UTC)