Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Siberian language (2 nomination)

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Note to closing administrator: User:Vladimir Volokhonsky attempted to vote-stack this AfD, by notifying people who voted delete in previous AfD. There is also announcement on Russian wikipedia, encouraging people to vote delete on this article.  Grue  18:02, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

There is also announcement [1] on Incubator wikipedia, encouraging people to vote keep on this article. --Morpheios Melas 12:08, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Another note

I have to say that I want to strongly protest against the forthcoming deletion of this article. No matter how you count the votes, and no matter how you look at the arguments, in my opinion there is no other conclusion possible than no consensus. Look:

  • If we include all votes: 32 keep, 33 delete, 2 abstain
  • If we include all votes of users with at least 1 previous edit before the AfD started: 21 keep, 31 delete, 2 abstain
  • If we include all votes of users with at least 50 previous edits before the AfD started: 15 keep, 26 delete

That doesn't even include the arguments used in by the people who votes. In fact, even if we disregard all the political crap about "Russian nazis" or "Siberian separatists", I still have to note that many of the "keep" voters had pretty good explanations for that, while among the "delete" voters there were a lot of completely non-arguments used.

See my analysis at User talk:Mangojuice#Siberian.

—IJzeren Jan Uszkiełtu? 14:56, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

That said, I have to say that the article hasn't gotten any better during the last few days. I therefore reiterate my proposal of translating the Dutch version of the article into English. As far as I can tell, people generally consider it accurate and NPOV. —IJzeren Jan Uszkiełtu? 14:59, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

And one more thing: no consensus ís a decision too, isn't it? Unless I've completely misunderstood the rules here, an article is deleted only if there is a "rough consensus" of at least 66 % in favour of deleting it. I strongly object against the deletion of this article! —IJzeren Jan Uszkiełtu? 15:05, 11 September 2006 (UTC)