Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/SWANsat

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SWANsat does not ... exist. RESPONSE: It is claimed by its backers to plan to launch around 2011, should satisfy your concern.

...only need a handheld mobile device to connect to the system - not impossible ... 600 million conections ... is unheard of impossible by anyone familiar with the state of the art in satellite communications.

RESPONSE: smaller antenna, lower power, lower frequency & lower spectrum allocation = Thuraya. larger antenna, higher power, higher frequency & higher spectrum allocation = SWANsat. SWANsat engineers state that using 250,000 watts, in the millimeter wave band, from GEO will work.

RECOMMENDATION: Detractors should speak with the state of the art satellite communications company, IOSTAR, for an engineering lesson.

BTW, when you are speaking to IOSTAR, ask them about the 'notoroious' failure Teledesic. It failed due to business related-issues not technical engineering specifications.

NOTE BY WILLIAM WELTY: Dr. James Stuart of IOSTAR worked on Teledesic. He informed me that one of the reason the project failed was due to failure to secure landing rights. SWANsat is addressing this issue with its concept of Shareware Telecommunications. Wpwelty 23:54, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

- Wmt


  • I think you're protesting a bit much. Keep all discussion on the SWANsat deletion page itself. Engineering lessons are typically provided in published papers.

Lloyd Wood

  • Actually, Dr Wood, you are the one who seems to be protesting too much and fasely accusing me of being someone I am not and re-casting my ID every time I post with no authority. Kindly remove your additions. It is not very becoming of a Doctor or an acedemic. - Wmt


Dr Wood, you object to certain specific items (power/frequency/distances - which is fine), yet when they are responded to, you morph your arguments by adding very vague objections: 'large number of reasons not limited to available power/frequencies/distances'. If you are an expert in the W-band communications, please provide us your peer reviewed publications proving that the W-Band is "IMPOSSIBLE" just as your assertions state as they apply to SWANsat. The fact that you likely missed a Year 2000 academic publication in the IEEE from the Italian Space Agency would indicate that you might not have complete information on the latest developments in the W-Band. Again, for example, IOSTAR's Dr Jim Stewart, earlier this year, would beg to differ with you.


Dr Wood, please keep an open, critical mind & not a hostile, critical one.


And in that regard, my comment on your "non-elegant' systems comment & our mutual hope for new elegent systems to be designed in the future was simply to point out something: the tone of your recent comments on WP are bordering arrogance that generally leads to wilful ignorance and close-mindedness WHEN acceptable information comes to light. You have been warned. Ensure that you leave enough room in your position to back down gracefully. I know I am.


Also, no where does William Welty claim he personally is building the satellites. Dr Wood, with your experience and knowledge, your POV should deal with what you see as the apparent weakness of the SWANsat technical satellite details. Surely SWANsat's spacecraft vendor IOSTAR should/could answer them for you.


Finally, your POV that a former DBS licencee, who now holds new spectrum for the purpose of data communication, should not have the proposal open to the general public, through WP, is not a credible POV. - Wmt

This note is being left by William Welty. Any questions concerning the viability of the SWANsat project may be directed to me at mailto:william@williamwelty.com. I am open to discussing with Dr. Wood what his concerns are about SWANsat. I have no idea who wrote the article on SWANsat relating to the IOSTAR connection (it wasn't I who did so), but anyone who wishes to know whether or not IOSTAR is involved with the project may call Robert D'Ausilio, Chairman of IOSTAR, at +1-801-292-0440 M-F 9:00-5:00pm Mountain Time Zone in North Salt Lake City and ask him yourself! He'll give you a "Yes" affirmation. Kindloy direct any questions concerning these issues directly to me at +1-714-738-9951 (Pacific Time Zone). Wpwelty 23:54, 25 August 2006 (UTC)