Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Pig mask

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[edit] Closing administrator's remarks

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[edit] Raw count analysis

  • Delete
  1. Otto4711 <afd nominator> (14 edits)
  2. Doctorfluffy
  3. Tevildo
  4. Masterpiece2000
  5. Revanche
  6. Ridernyc (8 edits)
  • Keep
  1. CyberGhostface (13 edits)
  2. Wageless (5 edits)
  3. Hobit
  4. Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles
  5. Agent452 (3 edits)
  1. Master of Puppets
  2. Lenin and McCarthy (2 edits)
  3. Jackel (said "delete then merge")
  • Non-participatory
  1. DGG (commented on process, but not article or subject)
  2. SineBot (doing what sinebot does)
  3. Jerry (relist without any commentary) <closer>

[edit] Rough consensus rationale

[edit] Delete arguments

  • fails WP:NOT#PLOT
  • no reliable sources to establish real-world context
  • sources provided are not independant of the subject or are obviously biased towards it

[edit] Discounted delete arguments

  • another movie prop is more notable and doesn't have it's own article
  • no reason for this to have it's own article
  • the subject is not unique
  • no sources with critical commentary

[edit] Keep arguments

  • since nomination article has been improved to include subject's development outside of films, its impact on the series and on popular culture
  • a link provided in the article is a review of the subject
  • iconic part of notable film series
  • subject achieved a cultural presence that is independent of the movie
  • of interest to the reader, provides encyclopedic content

[edit] Discounted keep arguments

  • subject marketed as various consumer goods
  • subject shown in promotional materials for notable films in which it appears
  • article is well written
  • verifiable; concerns a recognizable aspect of a notable film series
  • sources are clearly there
  • seems notable
  • no harm caused by keeping this article
  • inherits notability from notable film series
  • if we delete it what will it's editors do?

As the nominator pointed-out several times during the course of this discussion, it was given ample time to reach consensus. This did not occur, however. Ergo: No consensus (default keep) JERRY talk contribs 02:18, 1 February 2008 (UTC)