Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Clockhouse Primary school

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[edit] Rationale

Firstly, Wikipedia:Schools/Arguments#Keep. Secondly, I believe schools are encyclopedic. Lastly, Verifiable and NPOV articles can be written and Jimbo says Verifiable and NPOV are enough.

I don't always believe notability is a necessary factor for encyclopedic articles but I do believe that schools are important centres in a community, in children's lives, and in parents' and society's desire for improving. A news story I heard over and over today in Ontario is the release of Fraser Institute's annual "Report Card on Ontario's elementary schools" which ranks data on the 2850 schools.

People do have an interest in reading about schools, their history, their programmes, and their facilities. Obviously if people are interested enough to write a school article, if people are interested enough to start a schools project, and if many people are motivated to vote keep for schools, then some people are interested in having encyclopedic, neutral articles about schools. Wikipedia is, I suspect, the best place for these. School and board websites are not neutral and often too expansive for a brief encyclopedic read. Government websites and other "stat" websites: too uninteresting. "Rate-my-School" websites: too narrow, POV, and unverifiable.

I agree with the proposals at WP:SCH and abide by them but I don't see any necessity to merge school-stubs and will vote keep for verifiable and NPOV school articles. In the future, when I say Verifiable and NPOV, please read it as I stated here.

11111, on the other hand, had no information or hope for expansion, as I read the debate, beyond its non-prime attribute which it shares with most numbers.

If I understand your reference to Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Wikimedia In Memoriam 9/11 correctly, you wonder if I judge an article on whether anyone will look for that article. I don't. I know there are many articles on important things that I have no interest in and hope that there are some that the vast majority of people don't. The deciding factor is unfortunately the imprecise belief that it is "valid material for an encyclopedia". That's why we have human votes for deletion rather than beefstew-type calculations for deletion.

I understand those who think non-notable schools are not encyclopedic but I respectfully disagree.

Cheers, DoubleBlue (Talk) 00:57, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)