Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/"educational tourism"

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect as some potentially salvageable content can be used in the future. Sr13 05:52, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "educational tourism"

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WP:NEO? WP:SPAM? ChoChoPK (ēƒēƒPK) (talk | contrib) 09:56, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

  • Delete. Seems to be thinly disguised linkspam. Kim Dent-Brown (Talk to me) 11:26, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete as spam. (Swimming with dolphins??) YechielMan 11:56, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete: What the??? Bowsy (review me!) 12:24, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete or redirect - Either way, we have WP:V, WP:OR, WP:EL, WP:SPAM, and WP:NPOV problems. Cool Bluetalk to me 12:38, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete as either Spam or original research. Davewild 17:47, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete WP:BOLLOCKS - so its either swimming with dolphins or learning COBOL in Thailand eh? Bigdaddy1981 18:31, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete per all above, fails a load of criteria Hut 8.5 19:54, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete - or Merge with Hostel - the educational travel movement, not the awful movie. Bearian 20:17, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep this article in its present state needs drastic editing, but it's a real subject,  : see OCLC where 11 items -- all the way back to 1961 -- are listed with this exact phrase in the title. Judge the subject, not the article. Hostel is a different concept--especially the WP article, which talks about the physical facilities not the movement. --this is tourism for adult education, not as part of education. I wish I had time to develop, but I suggest stubbifying and adding the refs. DGG 01:38, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete "Honey, I'm just not sure where to go on vacation this year... there's a special on swimming with dolphins, but the kids are dead-set on going to Thailand to learn COBOL. I just can't decide!" Delete as stealth linkspam. DGG might be right that this is a salvagable topic, but since it would require a 100% rewrite (not to mention another title) there's no harm in deleting this first. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 14:17, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep Guys, I wrote the article we are commenting on. From my POV I have done a number of courses (clearly not wikipedia entry level 1) and recently did the Prince2 projects course in London but due to the best part of a year in Asia I knew I could get the course in India cheaper. Looking for another course recently a link led me to one of the sites I added as an example (now deleted) which proclaimed itself as an educational tourist leader. Thinking that this "ET" angle was exactly what I wanted I googled the phrase and of the 4million odd hits clicked a few on the first page. The underlying theme was there were two sorts, Prince 2 in india and remembering my old boss who took a two week holiday in Panama to swim with dolphins was a nice example of the second. Basically most sites fell into those two areas. I came to wiki to see if I could further drill down on detail so I could search potential providers better and ended up with nothing. Hence I thought I would create an entry. I had to read through the instruction pages and thought I did a reasonable job. I apologise if its not come across properly but it was created because (a) there isn't an entry on a genuine search and (b) I genuinly thought there should be. I will happily bow to the collective knowledge and accept that my tongue in cheek subtitles (swimming with dolphins / learning cobol in thailand) are not "pure" but I do believe they convey the two styles rather accurately. If anyone can spare the time, I would happily see this re-worded 100% but I don't believe it deserves deletion - not least because it was a genuine search of mine so therefore it might be of somebody else tomorrow... Mr Quite Happy
  • Delete and redirect The sample providers thing is what got it. It sounds like it has potential, but needs a lot of cleanup (and why is it in double quotes?) Redirect/merge to Tourism#Niche_tourism for now. OSborn 04:36, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete per WP:NOR - reads more like a leaflet than an encyclopaedia article, incomprehensible, unsourced SalaSkan 11:38, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.