Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zybourne Clock

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete, lack of verifiability and notability. —Verrai 19:45, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Zybourne Clock

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Non-notable video game project, possibly even a hoax article. Not sure whether it's a hoax or actually a real project, but judging from a google search it's a hoax as there seems to be no real information about the game available. All the google hits lead to the SomethingAwful forums (such as here or here) or sites like this. Aqwis 22:35, 6 October 2007 (UTC)


Please don't delete the Zybourne Clock entry.

I'm really new to this "talking on wickerpedia" concept, so I'm unfamiliar with much of the code, but I just want to say that I use this page to watch for ZC (That's what all my friends and I call it. We're really big fans!) updates, and if it's deleted, I don't really know where I'll be able to go to follow the development and view updates now that the project has become incredibly secretive.

From what I know, the game's development is taking place almost entirely between members of the SomethingAwful forums via PM, email, fax, and/or old fashioned "snail mail", so I imagine that's why finding information is very difficult. I can personally verify that the game is indeed real, and not a hoax, as I was present on the forums during the earliest stages of the project, when the collaborators were openly allowing material to be leaked. If I remember correctly, the members involved in the project had even set up their own forum at one point, though I think they abandoned it soon afterward, due to the heavy, heavy traffic they were receiving from fans of the game.

I also disagree on the fact that it breaks the "Crystal Ball Policy", because almost all the information in the entry, except for information on Dr. Zybourne's relationship with Sylus (which is speculation, I will agree), is correct and has come straight from the developers themselves. I personally believe that the only reason that sources cannot be provided is because most of this information has been taken from direct quotes (e.g. One of the creators did in fact provide the concept regarding the timelines replacing one another and did provide the "ball knocking another ball off a cliff" metaphor) , and the secrecy of the project and the need of it's developers to keep so much from being leaked makes it difficult to provide a concrete link.

Anyway, that's my two cents. Please don't delete the article. LittleBarnacle 21:14, 8 October 2007 (UTC)


of course all hits are SA, its a game being made by the forum members, or "goons", if you will. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.56.191.213 (talk) 17:06, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

- Please do not remove this page, as the Zybourne Clock project has many followers eagerly awaiting its release. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.238.157.153 (talk) 13:24, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

  • Delete - No reliable sources. -- Whpq 15:38, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
How are we supposed to provide reliable sources, the game hasn't been covered by the gaming media.--Dans1120 19:32, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
Comment As per WP:N, The common theme in the notability guidelines is the requirement for verifiable objective evidence to support a claim of notability. Substantial coverage in reliable sources constitutes such objective evidence, as do published peer recognition and the other factors listed in the subject specific guidelines. So if there are no reliable sources, then it's because there is insufficient notability. -- Whpq 19:41, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.