Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zortam Mp3 Media Studio

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete. Petros471 17:20, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Zortam Mp3 Media Studio

Delete Advert. AlistairMcMillan 22:05, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

• Delete as non-notable software and advert. Lots of software get CNet entries, why does this one deserve an article? Kimchi.sg 00:21, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
• Comment. It is listed as a "Popular" download at download.com, and it is mentioned in the two published books at the bottom of the article, though its >200,000 Google hits appear to be mostly software repositories/download sites. Also, the first paragraph is copied from the Zortam website and the screenshot is also copied from there, though it is a screenshot and so may be okay. At the very least the article would need to be cleaned up. —Centrx→talk 05:32, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

• Comment. Zortam was pioneer in ID3 tagging starting from 2002 specially with implementing all futures of ID3 standard. It was developed way before iTunes, MediaMonkey and other taggers that have articles in Wikipedia. It introduced saving cover arts and lyrics to ID3 tags which made Mp3 so popular on iPods and other portable Mp3 devices. It is also translated into 10 different languages helping people around the world to tag their files. Zortam Forum helps thousand people on daily basis to uderstand what does mean tagging and how to tag their Mp3 files.zgvozden→talk 09:00, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

• Please provide sources to back up these claims. Particularly the one that states Zortam, which was releaed in 2002, was "developed way before iTunes", which was released in 2001. Particularly when iTunes was just a re-engineered program called SoundJam, which was released in the late 1990s. AlistairMcMillan 20:42, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

• I was thinking about iTunes for Windows. Zortam Mp3 Media Studio works only on Windows platform but we have plans to port it to Mac OSX and linux because people would like to see Zortam Mp3 Media Studio also on MAC OSX and linux. Check this link [MP3 Media Studio for Mac OSX? ] zgvozden 06:55, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

• You may have misunderstood Alistair's question. The main point of it is: Are there any other places (online or offline), besides the descriptions on download sites and your own website, which say that your software is indeed the first to have these features? Another important question: Are there any newspapers or real-world magazines that mention your software? Kimchi.sg 06:23, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

• Zortam Mp3 Media Studio was published on numerous computer newspapers and newspapers CD/DVD in different countries. For recent example you can check this link [Chip Poland]. Zortam Mp3 Media Studio is also placed on the 1'st place by popularity at [Tucows - Audio Tag Editors] category. Regarding Zortam Mp3 Media Studio futures I suggest creating a new article Comparison of tag editors zgvozden 15:28, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

• Delete nn, advertisement. The Ghits I looked at went to download sites and catalog listings. I admit to fatiguing-out without finding any news articles regarding notability of company or the various undocumented claims made above, so this may not be definitive. Tychocat 09:49, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

• Check [Zortam News Feed] to get the letest news from Zortam. Zortam News feed is included to numerus feed repositories wild world. Check also Google News. zgvozden 15:42, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

• Comment Can you provide us with some real independent published reviews? And I don't mean listings on sites like tucows or download.com where "popularity" is simply a count of the number of times it has been downloaded. A number that could easily be fudged. AlistairMcMillan 18:43, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

• As I mention before reviews about Zortam Mp3 Media Studio were published on numerous computer newspapers in different countries. We have received e-mail request from many computer magazines to publish article about Zortam Mp3 Media Studio. We don't keep track about news releases. It might be that download numbers at download.com or tucows.com can be fudged for short time, but my opinion is that they are pretty much real. Nothing is perfect but download.com and tucows.com are one of the best software downloaded sites that we have today. zgvozden 08:32, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.