Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zones of EverQuest

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus to delete. W.marsh 13:50, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Zones of EverQuest

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This article is loaded with unsourced, unnotable gamecruft.

There are no sources whatsoever on this article, let alone one that would verify its real world acknowledgement.

Readers who do not play the EverQuest games would very likely not be interested in this article, failing notability.

Finally, the article appears to be highly dense in gamecruft, having only in-game content and mentioning nothing of its relevance to the real world. Its high file size furthers this issue.

Such articles are a magnet for original research and would generally be irrelevant to anyone else. IAmSasori 02:31, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Game-related-related deletions. —IAmSasori 02:34, 7 November 2007 (UTC).

• Delete, unsourced and no real world context, but not a1. VivioFateFan ^{(Talk, Sandbox)} 02:37, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep, article seems to have been improved to address the issues since I last reviewed it. VivioFateFan ^{(Talk, Sandbox)} 04:12, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
• Delete No notability outside of fanbase. ~ | twsx | ^talk_cont | 08:32, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
• Delete as these virtual zones have no reliable sources to demonstrate real-world notability outside the EverQuest canon. --Gavin Collins 10:54, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
• Merge to Everquest 132.205.99.122 22:02, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
• Comment: That's right, we must delete or merge this trivial article that's only useful to a few thousand people in order to save electrons. Remember, save those electrons, they're more important than you think —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.139.148.100 (talk) 18:25, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
• Keep Nominator appears to have a serious agenda since they talk of nominating over 100 articles for deletion, which will overwhelm the system. Reasons given by nominator unsourced, original research, and fancruft are grounds for improvement, not deletion, and by nominator's own admission may not be relevant to this article. Nominator claims unnotable and yet provides no indication of what notability criteria they think this article fails. Most importantly claim by nominator that topic is non-notable because non-fans would not read it shows a lack of understanding of notability. I am not a fan of hip-hop or opera - but the 'fact' that only fans would read those articles does not mean those articles are non-notable. Edward321 06:09, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

the Nominator's alleged 'agenda' has no impact on whether or not this particular article satisfied WP policies and guidelines for existance of notable, reliably sourced articles. this article does not appear to meet guidelines.207.69.137.26 08:40, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

• Keep or merge to EverQuest. The list, while possibly only useful to the fanbase, is nonetheless useful. The EverQuest fanbase makes up a pretty large group of people. ~Floppie^{(talk • contribs)} 02:37, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

  Somebody mentioned something about a table...I'd be more than happy to import the table found at Zone Names - EQ KnowledgePit once I get it finished. It's a sortable table with zone information. Someone would have to strip out all the internal links though, and fix the expansion links. ~Floppie^{(talk • contribs)} 03:55, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

• Strong Keep please keep this article This is an important merge/redirect target for the dozens of articles that spring up for EQ zones. This was, at one point, the world's most popular video game, so it's not totally off-base to keep an article for the geography of its fictional world (primary settings of notable fictional works are notable). -Harmil 14:40, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

I've made some improvements in sourcing and the intro. The body of the article needs to be reduced to essential info, still and more sources need to be added. -Harmil 20:18, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

And now I've pulled in the table that was suggested above (it was GFDL, and I've credited its source). -Harmil 21:04, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Fixed up the EQKP-specific wiki markup that I use for item links on my site; also set the table to class="sortable" to make it a little easier for a user to work with. It should be noted that that table is only 100% complete up to (and including) Shadows of Luclin; it also has complete lists from Gates of Discord and the Lost Dungeons of Norrath. I'll notify you each time I get an expansion complete if you want, either that or I'll just wait until I get the whole thing done, since the bigger expansions are finally out of the way ;) ~Floppie^{(talk • contribs)} 21:46, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

• Delete as article has no primary sources, making it impossible to verify the content of this article. Nor are there any reliable secondary sources to demonstrate notability, as all the notes are basically off topic. This article fails WP:NOT#GUIDE and there is no sensible argument for keeping this article.--Gavin Collins 07:03, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.