Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zion (The Matrix)

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep, though the result would be more convincing if real world sourcing were added.--Kubigula (talk) 05:03, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Zion (The Matrix)

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This article is an in-universe repetition of the plot of the Matrix movies, and as they already cover the plot in an appropriate size, this is entirely duplicative, without any referencing or notability, and should be deleted. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 22:31, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

  • Keep - the article is fascinating for fans of the Matrix films and I cannot see what is gained by deleting it. If you wanted to find out specifically about the city, you would not want to read everything ever written on the matrix so having a separate article makes sense to me. Skip1337 (talk) 23:15, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep as a central setting of an important series of works. I'm going to guess this passes WP:FICT after doing a quick Google/Google Scholar search. I'd list them here, but I have to go to a meeting now, so I'll try to come back to this discussion afterwards and list any that I can find. True, those sources should be worked into the actual article, but as I'm sure I've said before, AfD =! cleanup. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 23:44, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
Of Course AFD doesn't equal cleanup, but with no references, I haven't asked for cleanup, but deletion. If we can get multiple sources added to the article, then we have something, but google searches with uncertain content is not establishment of notability. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 01:21, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment Google test is a bad idea here, as Zion also refers to Jerusalem. Google scholar is an even worse idea RogueNinjatalk 23:51, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
    • Obviously, you search for something like "Zion Matrix film movie" to screen out things that refer to the real-world place. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 01:42, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep major series or great notability; subarticles like this are only sensible, and this one is of a significant aspect of it. JJL (talk) 03:12, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep per notability. Marlith T/C 03:36, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete. No sources given. No assertion that this is notable outside the context of the movies, and therefore it should not be separated from the articles about the movies. Argyriou (talk) 06:23, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep it exists across many films, games, etc. Notable within all of those as a major location in the overall story.Gwynand (talk) 15:32, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep - notable, and does not seem redundent to information elsewhere --T-rex 22:34, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Strong Delete — Seriously, there's no need to have an article about this. — EliasAlucard (Discussion · contribs) 02:39, 29 January 2008 (UTC)


The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.