Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zinio

This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was No Consensus. Redwolf24 00:38, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Zinio

ad page by anon user 61.177.142.226, whose only edit was the creation of this page. Delete Ken 22:04, August 5, 2005 (UTC)

I'm only seeing two or three valid votes. Relisting for another five days. --Tony Sidaway^Talk 00:16, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

• Keep - It was a big ad before I toned it down. I think what's left is NPOV. Are you also suggesting it's non-notable? Naturenet | Talk 22:17, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment: it still reads like an ad to me, so I stand by listing it for deletion. Notable? I'm willing to let the folks who vote decide that. Ken 22:31, August 5, 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment. If this "toned-down" article is going to be kept, then the NXTbook Media and Texterity articles should be kept as well, but "toned-down" to match this Zinio article. -69.104.40.172 22:33, August 5, 2005
    • Not necessarily; notability and encyclopedic value need to be established for each article separately, which is why I listed them separately. It's possible that one will be considered notable enough (client count, market penetration, etc.) that it will be kept, while the others are not. Ken 22:49, August 5, 2005 (UTC)
      • Understood. I was saying that I believe they are equal in notability and value. So if one is deleted, all should be deleted and if one is kept, all should be kept. -69.104.40.172 23:20, August 5, 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Still essentially an advertisement page ("provides digital solutions"), claim to notability is that it has 200 clients. My local café beats that. Sdedeo 22:36, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
• Keep - This is a new product space... There needs to be some way to describe these services/products in a factual way. For Zinio, I would remove "As of 2005, over 200 magazines use Zinio and it has 62% market share of audited digital circulation." as this is a "claim" which cannot be externally verified, and in any case, is subject to change over time. For NXTbook Media and Texterity as long as the descriptions are somewhat factual, its necessary to keep their entries to maintain parity. These are all "vendor generated" descriptions, but unless someone has a better idea, it's better to have some information rather than nothing.

Unsigned vote by Cimarron.buser, a user with 4 edits --Allen3 ^talk 16:36, August 12, 2005 (UTC)

• Delete as per article creator's comments in Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/NXTbook Media. --Allen3 ^talk 16:40, August 12, 2005 (UTC)
• Delete well, since the other "vendor" profiles are now deleted, delete this one too, I guess. The webpage links in the main definition will have to suffice. Cimarron.buser 21:11, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
• Delete it doesn't seem encylopaedic, and still reads like it's selling the company, rather than informing on it. Cursive 00:29, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
• Keep As the market leader in its field it seems more notable than some companies we have articles on. Osomec 00:33, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
• Keep this. Trollderella 00:35, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Yes, the article still reads somewhat like an advertisement. A little research shows that it's a closely-held VC-funded company with a notable board of directors (Stewart Alsop, for one). The article should be cleaned up, but VfD is not cleanup. Nandesuka 00:43, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
• Keep; But clean and add relevant info. Celcius 01:58, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Still looks like advertising to me. WMMartin 10:24, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, ad. Radiant_>|< 10:51, August 18, 2005 (UTC)
• Delete—Non-notable company advertising. --Tysto 16:43, 2005 August 18 (UTC)
• Delete Erwin Walsh
• Merge and redirect to Digital magazine along with information on other firms providing digital distribution for balance. -- WCFrancis 16:59, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
• Delete nn --PhilipO 22:50, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
• Delete nn ad. -Splash 02:16, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
• Keep and expand, well-known media company. - choster 19:19, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, nn ad. - market leadership is claimed by any company I know of, so I wouldn't trust that :p --Raistlin 12:52, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
• Keep and expand -- Reinyday

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