Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zhang Hong Jie

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The result of the debate was KEEP, considering the early deleters may not have seen the rewrite. -Splash^talk 00:47, 17 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Zhang Hong Jie

Non-notable murder victim, Wikipedia is not a memorial and so on, delete--nixie 10:47, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

• Is this non-notable, though? The article does at least try to establish notability... --Moritz 11:16, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
• Delete dying unnaturally (or even horrifically) does not notability make --NielsenGW 11:36, September 7, 2005 (UTC)
• Delete millions of people die every day. Some of them more notable in every aspect but they aren't worthy of an article. --Mecanismo 17:51, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
• Keep, international incident. Kappa 18:47, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
• Delete per nominator Pilatus 19:02, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

The article has been expanded since the first three comments here, with more on how it is significant involving Chinese & Australian governments, links to national news sites and forums. Astrokey44 22:47, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

• Delete we have people killed all of the time overseas involving different nationalities and it is just another fight over the extradition and the death penalty. We have those in the US a bunch. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 22:49, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

how about it gets moved to Zhang Hong Jie case?, as it is the incident, not the person which is notable. Similar to how Clea Rose was moved Astrokey44 03:07, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

• Keep and move per Astrokey. This case is significant given the political and diplomatic sensitivities involved both between the ACT and Australian Governments and the Chinese and Australian Governments. There is a strong possibility that the alleged murderer could escape trial because Jon Stanhope won't allow the ACT Branch of the Australian Federal Police to investigate the case. That certainly isn't a usual occurrence. The case has received plenty of publicity in Canberra and political attention. Capitalistroadster 03:26, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
• Keep I think the international angle argues for keeping this. Nandesuka 04:39, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
• Keep and move per Astrokey. The case is notable, not the victim. MCB 07:28, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

I'd argue the murderer is moe notable that the victim. Extradition cases aren't that notable. Pilatus 10:18, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

• Keep murder case that raises some important issues. --Vsion 05:32, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
• Keep, as long as it is not moved. No need to attach "...case" to it. Ambi 02:04, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
• Delete There are probably hundreds of college women murdered by their boyfriends around the world every year. We can't have articles on each locally sensational murder case, and this article utterly fails to explain why this particular case is worthy of such attention. Compare say Sharon Tate, who probably would be one of the rare examples of a notable murder victim.---CH (talk) 08:28, 12 September 2005 (UTC)

On second thought, weak keep as per Capitalistroadster (international legal/political issues).---CH (talk) 08:32, 12 September 2005 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.