Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zero-hit wonder

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The result of the debate was DELETE. jni 19:13, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Zero-hit wonder

Delete, there is no such thing as "Zero-hit wonder. Kelisfan2k5 stop removing this off the votes for deletion. (listed by a helpful anon 66.91.63.100)

• Keep Wikipedia is not paper. This is a harmless Wikipedia article. If you delete this, then you might as well delete: Two-hit wonders in the United States and Goomba. Sure it's a little crufty, but it's not harming Wikipedia. ZzZ 05:15, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • User's 5th edit, all today. VfD has become invaded with both pro- and con-deletion sockpuppets today. RickK 06:44, Apr 9, 2005 (UTC)
• Strong delete. First of all, the term zero-hit wonder is a little self contradictory - what is so wondrous about a band without a hit? Secondly, the given criteria for listing is arbitrary and seems by it's very definition POV. Thirdly, the term "zero-hit wonder" racks up a less than wonderous 27 hits on Google [1]. I woudln't call this entry a little crufty - I'd call it useless and unencyclopedic. Arkyan 05:39, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Move to No-hit wonder, which does somewhat better on the Google test. But -->Keep<--. I was surprised that some listed band had never had a top-40 hit, so there's something to be said for the concept of a band that is widely known and yet hasn't had a single. -- 8^D ^gab 05:48, 2005 Apr 9 (UTC)
  • (wanted to be sure my vote did not get lost in the shuffle, being off to the side and all) -- 8^D ^gab 06:49, 2005 Apr 9 (UTC)
• Keep. Wikipedia is not paper. Andrew pmk 06:05, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Delete A "no-hit wonder" and a zero-hit wonder are different things. A no-hit is a band that plays all right, but never made it to the charts, likely something popular in a specific genre of music, but without enough mainstream backing to crack the charts. A "Zero-Hit Wonder" sounds like someone's ploy to make it onto wikipedia with an article. Similar enough to make it, but not actually a real or useful article. --TheAdversary 06:17, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • New user, all of whose edits were either to VfD pages or the creation of VfD pages. RickK 06:45, Apr 9, 2005 (UTC)
    • Why, exactly, would someone need a"ploy" to "make it onto wikipedia with an article"? There are thousands of articles that need writing - just look at Wikipedia:Most wanted articles for a starter. -- 8^D ^gab 06:59, 2005 Apr 9 (UTC)
      • I assume he means that it's a ploy for the bands to make it onto Wikipedia, since band vanity articles are routinely deleted per WP:NMG. (The bands in this list, however, meet criterion 1.) No vote from me. —Korath (Talk) 10:28, Apr 9, 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Seems like the article creator arbitrarily made up the term. Everyone knows intuitively what a one-hit wonder is... but saying a zero-hit (or two-hit) falls between X and Y on the charts is NOT intuitive. Feco 07:16, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, neologism. --Angr/_comhrá 08:15, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Look at the Criteria for Inclusion. I don't have exact numbers, but (knowing what a small percentage of songs hit the Billboard Top 40) if you add bands from Billboard's bottom 60 and/or the American Top 40 and/or the Radio & Records CHR you get . . . . a lot of songs. At that point we might as well just dump the entire history of the Billboard Hot 100 onto a huge list. Wikipedia is not paper, but it's also not a general knowledge base. Soundguy99 11:22, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Move to No-hit wonder, but change the criteria for inclusion to only include artists COMMONLY thought of as one-hit wonders. --KelisFan2K5 13:24, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Above user is the entry's original author. Arkyan 14:53, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • And KElisFan2K5 has seen fit to blank the page, which I have reverted and suggested to the User is not an appropriate action. RickK 21:34, Apr 9, 2005 (UTC)

• Delete. The definition makes no sense as anyone who manages to get a song in the Top 100 is considered to have had a hit. Impossible to maintain since there are no doubt thousands of performers that were "zero hit wonders". 23skidoo 14:45, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, contradictory definition (and most bands that are zero-hit wonders would fall below the band inclusion guidelines). Radiant_* 15:07, Apr 9, 2005 (UTC)
• Delete unverifiable —Wahoofive | Talk 17:57, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Delete neologism, etymology-cruft. --InShaneee 19:28, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)

• Delete this article. Any info/comment presented in this can be added to the individual band pages and One-hit wonder can be corrected if they are incorrectly listed there. --Fuzzball! (talk) 20:15, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Delete — The only criteria that would make any sense for something like this is if the artists have a substantial body of popular work but never actually had a major singles hit. — RJH 03:34, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, unverifiable, unmanagable, cruft. Megan1967 04:02, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Delete CDC (talk) 05:31, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, neologism, scope too broad. Dave the Red (talk) 05:36, Apr 10, 2005 (UTC)
• Delete as neologism. As well, it presents an open opportunity for bands/artists who fail to meet guidelines to list themselves in the article. My father and brother were both in bands that played for various periods of time but never had a hit or made a record. Most bands don't so nothing notable about them. Capitalistroadster 10:57, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Wikipedia is meant to document existing phenomena, not create new ones. While I think that the concept is interesting, it is far too vague to ever be encyclopedic. "Zero Hit Wonder" gets 28 hits on Google. --DropDeadGorgias (talk) 01:02, Apr 11, 2005 (UTC)
• Gotta say delete this one - setting up our own criteria is simply original research. Rhobite 05:24, Apr 11, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep, useful information. Grue 06:39, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, neologism/trivial. -- Dcfleck 13:12, 2005 Apr 12 (UTC)
• Delete. There is no such thing as a "Zero Hit Wonder," as the helpful anon said. Carolaman
• Delete. Neologism. CatCrofts 05:01, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Delete as non-existent wordcruft. ComCat 06:34, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, Neologism. Xezbeth 18:50, Apr 14, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep Wiki aint paper. It's an extant concept. Klonimus 07:56, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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