Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zasz

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The result of the debate was delete. -- AllyUnion (talk) 13:06, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Zasz

A minor character from the Starcraft universe. Fancruft. Indrian 20:33, Feb 5, 2005 (UTC)

• Delete as cruft. Wyss 21:06, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Delete as GOOPTI. — Ливай | ☺ 22:28, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Merge as GOOPTI. --L33tminion | (talk) 01:44, Feb 6, 2005 (UTC)
• Merge anything useable to Zerg Cerebrate, and add redirect. Megan1967 03:21, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, fancruft. --Idont Havaname 04:42, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. I normally don't vote when it's obvious. But the 'merge' votes above will be counted as 'keep' by the sysop, and since they count for double a 'delete' vote, this vote is on track to being ruled as "no consensus for deletion".
  • Unsigned comment left by User:BM — Ливай | ☺ 17:42, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
    • How do you reason that BM? If its a merge vote the article up for VfD will become subsumed by the target article in the merger, and the VfD article either deleted or redirected. Voting delete for the sake of opposing a merge or keep vote without other reasons is puzzling. Megan1967 05:48, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)
    • Here is how the sysops tally the votes, more or less. They count the votes. That is the denominator. Then they count the Deletes; that is the numerator. If the numerator divided by the denominator is not two-thirds or greater, the outcome is no consensus to delete, meaning the article is not deleted. If there is no consensus to delete, what happens next is entirely up to the admin to decide. In fact, any editor can redirect or merge, so the admin is not really doing anything that any other user couldn't do; the only thing that requires sysop powers is deleting the article. So a "Merge" vote is counted with the keeps, and blocks a consensus to delete. Since a two thirds consensus is required to delete, when someone votes Merge, the Delete side has to get two more votes just to stay even. The above is an oversimplification because people sometimes vote 'Abstain' or their vote can't be figured out, and is up to the sysop to decide whether to include the vote in the denominator (i.e. effectively, against deletion). Sometimes the nominator forgets to explicitly vote, and the sysop has to decide whether to count the nomination as a 'Delete'. People vote "Weak Keep" or "Weak Delete", and the sysop has to decide how to count those. Sometimes there are "sock-puppet" votes, and the sysop has to decide how much weight to give them. But the way most of the votes are processed, anything other than a straight Delete means Keep. A Merge vote does not mean, "Merge, but Delete rather than Keep", unless you explicitly say that and the sysop reads and honors what you say. There is an example on this VfD page right now, Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Parallel Path, which is an article written by someone on his idea for a perpetual motion machine. In the first VfD vote, 7 people voted Delete, 1 person voted Merge (to Perpetual Motion), 2 people voted Weak Keep, and 1 person voted Keep. The 1 outright Keep was the author of the article, who had never edited anything except the article and the VfD vote. The admin tallied this as 7 Deletes, 4 Keeps (including the Merge): No consensus to delete. She put a Merge tag on the article, which the author removed. The article is now up for VfD again. --BM 15:57, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

• A Starcraftcruft character that says a couple of things and then is killed off. Also a minor (and also dead) character in an online role-playing game. Also a common Romanian surname. Also a common pseudonym chosen for on-line activities. None of which are notable. Delete. Uncle G 02:08, 2005 Feb 7 (UTC)

• delete.' -- ComCat 15:31, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)

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