Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zachary Jaydon

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. My thoughts are similar to those of Epbd, whose comment is at the bottom of this discussion. At first, I said to myself, "Well, he was on the Mickey Mouse Club [which I never watched and wouldn't watch if my life depended on it, but I still respect the significance of the show and its castmembers], so he must be notable." However, searching Google and Google News- under both the subject's real and assumed name- I couldn't find a single hit from a reputable site. For some of the sources stated by the anon (who claims to be the subject- making this highly-POV article, of course, a COI) below, including Amazon and Independent Songwriters, searches came up blank. Aside from one four-episode credit, all of his post-MMC roles were one-episode, usually unnamed, characters. While co-writing songs with well-known singers is quite impressive, writing non-notable, non-single songs does not confirm notability. trying to find confirmation of the music awards, I found only WP and IMDb pages, which are not reliable in and of themselves. I will gladly change my mind if I see some verification and/or coverage from reliable sources (and hit up my talk page if that can be done), but at the moment, I see none. -- Mike (Kicking222) 20:56, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Oh, and of course, there was the whole "5-2 (the two assumedly including the subject of the article) consensus to delete, with the delete !voters giving far better reasonings for their viewpoints" thing. Heh, forgot about that part of my above monologue. -- Mike (Kicking222) 21:00, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Zachary Jaydon

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Possibly non-notable actor/music artist. Speedied then prod'd, and I objected to both. Helping out user:Thegingerone by nominating it here (ie. this is not a vote by me). violet/riga (t) 12:54, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

• Delete Thanks Violetriga I have issues working some of these admin templates. I dont believe this article Zachary Jaydon meets notability guidelines. For starters most of the claims in the article are unverifiable and not cited. Its written like a PR rant. There is no proof he was on the MMC the only source of that seems to be pages (such as imdb) he edited himself. The only one verifiable bit is he did write 'Key to my heart' by Craig David which I believe is hardly Wikipedia worthy. He did work with some of the artists mentioned but so? He wrote some songs. None of them (by his ASCAP) seem to be hits outside of that one. That does not make an article worthy.

I highly encourage anyone reviewing this to double check any sources they find especially on google. In my knowledge of this person they are very good with PR and edit many pages of themselves on their own. If someone can prove to me he legitimately (by a non biased reliable source) did anything worthy of a Wikipedia page feel free to keep it. But as it stands I dont see how its noteable. --Thegingerone 13:00, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

• Keep On IMDB, his score is well above the 50,000s, which makes him somewhat known in the entertainment industry. Not taking into consideration parts of IMDB that could be self-published (i.e. "Bio" section), he is still shown to have been a song writer for the film Osmosis Jones, a series regular (37 episodes) on The Mickey Mouse Club, and his latest work was a credited appearance on Queer as Folk. Seems notable enough to me. TGreenburgPR 22:10, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

• Delete I will give he is a songwriter to some degree; but outside of 'Key to my heart' I dont see what has been a 'hit' or why that would make him noteable enough. Im not a big user of imdb but I do know you can add your own acting credits. He was not 'featured' on MMC; if he was ever an extra or such is truly unknown (since imdb aside there is no proof even on amazon that he was on the show). Could someone verify the MMC claim OUTSIDE of imdb? --Thegingerone 02:10, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

• Delete, NN child actor. He was apparently on MMC (and interestingly Britney's kid is named Jayden), but there isn't a single article about him or anything more than a listing of his presence there in Google News Archive. Note that original research methods such as using his IMDB "score" (what is that? how is it calculated? does it change?) are not evidence of notability. A single song and a guest appearance aren't really a notable H'wood career. --Dhartung | Talk 05:55, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

• Keep With all due respect Dhartung, I would like to think that my notability started when I was 2 years old, working with such "notable" actresses such as Angela Landsbury in movies that were nominated for multiple major awards. I would also like to include that if ONLY as a songwriter, I have worked with Ryan Cabrera, Craig David, Justin Timberlake, Karl Wolf and others achieving multi-platinum status as determined by the RIAA multiple times. These are not things I could just "make up" or "edit" into fact. If you search my name in google, IMDB is hardly the only place that you will find my cast listing in the MMC. It is listed on dozens of other "non-editable" sites, including Amazon.com, AOL and others. That isn't even mentioning the appearances in "Queer as Folk," "Bug Juice," "Malibu Shores," "Walker, Texas Ranger," "Kyle XY" and others. As per Wikipedia "Noteable" standards, if 1/5 of any of my achievements were true, I would be deemed notable. Independent verification can be done through IMDB, AOL, AMAZON in many different countries, as well as being noted in Disney Channel Magazine, Independent Songwriter and others. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.219.130.15 (talk) 07:53, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
• Delete From his accomplishments, it seems like he should be notable, but as he has had no independant coverage, he isn't. Epbr123 19:17, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

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