Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Youth Against Christ

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was no consensus. Mailer Diablo 01:17, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Youth Against Christ

Non-notable album by non-notable band Nv8200p talk 00:48, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

• Weak Keep, album released on a notable label (Displeased Records). If not a keep, then at least a redirect to (Altar (band))--TBC☆^{O M G!} 01:07, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete - Richardcavell 01:16, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Sandy 02:28, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
• Redirect to Altar (band)
• Is Displeased Records notable by WP standards including the WP:MUSIC guidelines? There isn't anything in that article to say so, except a list of bands, and I don't know enough about "Dutch death metal" to know how significant they are. Certainly there's nothing in Youth against Christ to give evidence of notability for that album, and Altar (band) says nothing about the album except that it exists. Redirect Youth against Christ to Altar (band). Barno 02:40, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. SorryGuy 04:42, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
• Redirect if Altar (band) survives Afd (and it looks like it will), otherwise delete -- Hirudo 05:36, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
• Redirect as above. Mystache 13:28, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
• The standard is that notable bands get album pages. Thus, Keep pending a keep of Altar (band). --badlydrawnjeff (WP:MEMES?) 14:04, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment: It's probably closer to "the standard" (WP core policies being given a higher weight than guidelines) to say that "notable bands get album pages" if there's something encyclopedic and verifiable to be said about them. A stub which can't be usefully expanded (I'm not saying this is one) isn't better than a redirect. Barno 14:11, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
    • I can't think of any band articles that either don't a) have album articles already created or have redlinks for their albums, or b) have the album information including tracklistings within the band article. --badlydrawnjeff (WP:MEMES?) 15:03, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

      (b) would suffice for this album, then. Redirect per Hirudo. — AKADriver ☎ 18:41, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

      • ....based on what? I ask only because I don't know of any articles like that, my poor phrasing notwithstanding.
      • the b) option created huge, ugly and unreadable pages consisting merely of lists and scattered images. It's better to have albums in separate artciles Spearhead 15:06, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

--badlydrawnjeff (WP:MEMES?)

• keep albums of notable bands are often separate articles Spearhead 20:55, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, appears to be verifiable. For great justice. 22:49, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
• Redirect there is a difference between bands notable enough to have every sneeze ever recorded given a separate article, and bands which merit inclusion but whose individual records are no big deal. Just zis Guy you know? 23:18, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Examples? --badlydrawnjeff (WP:MEMES?) 23:25, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
    • Possibly, but redirecting can be done by anyone at any time. It needs to be kept in order to do that. For great justice. 17:27, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
• Redirect per Just zis Guy.... Metamagician3000 12:16, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
• Weak keep Band seems to be reasonably notable. Beno1000 23:25, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Delete. Not notable in any way. As per the redirects and merges, it may be worth a brief summary in another article. WP:NOT an indiscriminate collection of information or a free publicity host, however.In1984 23:50, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, fairly minor but nonetheless, a release from a notable band on a just about notable label. Deizio 12:29, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
• Comment: all their other albums have articles as well. Seems a bit random to just AFD one album. Spearhead 07:47, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.