Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yoopanese

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge. I have redirected the articles; knowledgeable editors are encouraged to merge relevant information. seresin | wasn't he just...? 04:54, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Yoopanese

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I hate to do this, since I really like Da Yoopers, but unfortunately, it seems that their albums fail WP:MUSIC. All of these albums were released independently; the only sources that I can find for them are either the liner notes or short, mostly one-sentence reviews on All Music Guide -- in other words, no substantial coverage whatsoever. Also, the first four albums were cassette-only releases that have been out of print for almost a decade now; therefore, they're especially unlikely to have been covered.

Even though the band is clearly notable by criterion #7 of WP:MUSIC (the article's sources assert that they're prominent representatives of Michigan's musical scene), the lack of available information on their albums concerns me. Since it would be far too much information to simply merge the albums' track listings into their page, these album pages should probably be deleted for lack of individual notability. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 15:08, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

• Comment The later albums feature slightly longer AMG reviews; however, I feel that this is more of an all-or-none case, so I'm listing them all. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 15:13, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. -- Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 15:16, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Michigan-related deletion discussions. -- Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 15:16, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. —TreasuryTag talkcontribs 17:21, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
• Merge At first I was concerned that TenPoundHammer might be off his rocker, saying "slightly longer AMG reviews" because "reviews" means "secondary sources", and articles with secondary sources should not be killed. But upon reading the AMG reviews, they seem quite monotonic. Basically, the encyclopedic content of the album articles, and of the AMG reviews, boils down to "they wear thin after a while". All the rest is just lists of skits and songs without much interpretation, and the few skits that the AMG reviewer does single out for comment could be mentioned in the main article. So merge the albums into the main article, minus the lists but plus the specific criticisms. Paddy Simcox (talk) 20:43, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

• There's really nothing to merge, since the band's page makes mention of all their albums already. Also, as far as I can tell, AMG is the only reliable source to have reviewed the albums -- and to base their critical reception entirely on AMG might be undue weight. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 01:50, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

• Redirct to the page on the band, so that people searching for the albums can find the information located on the band's page. -- saberwyn 02:01, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 18:57, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

• Merge all to Da Yoopers or alternately a new Da Yoopers discography page. --Dhartung | Talk 19:35, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
• Merge albums to main article of notable band or create a subarticle. While the band meets WP:MUSIC, unfortunately, the albums do not have enough coverage to warrant articles themselves. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 19:55, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
• Keep Clearly we want to include the information about these albums somewhere in the encyclopedia. Either in their own articles or as part of the article on the band that recorded them, neither or these options requires deletion. Catchpole (talk) 20:28, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
• Comment We seem to be headed for a consensus to merge. Therefore, I am taking Dhartung's idea and making a separate Da Yoopers discography page, which will use the {{tracklist}} templates to save space. I've gotten a start at User:TenPoundHammer/Yoopers sandbox. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 20:44, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
• Support da merge to Da Yoopers discography page dere, eh? (Right towards the bottom end of Da Yoopers country here in SE Wisconsin) Nate • (chatter) 22:13, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.